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Nothing has reverted, they are creating a permanent green zone around the Capitol right now.

by anewaccount2021 6y ago

BrianOnHN 6y ago
Are you saying that was his intention?
- anewaccount2021 6y ago
  Not explicitly, but surely everyone who has a longstanding axe to grind with the government is pleased to see a wedge driven between the establishment and the citizenry Its real change. What real change is created by pithy think pieces in WaPo, NYT, substack etc? None. The readers are invested in the establishment so they'll never offer more than the odd tish-tosh and go back to their lives. Take for example, established media discussions of climate change or Apple labor practices -the dear readers offer a witty condemnation in a comment but don't actually change their habits. edit: I can see why my comments earn dowvotes...HN readers think they are disruptors but in reality we are just the dweeb army slaving away to hold it all together
  - the-dude 6y ago
    You are receiving up-votes too. Keep speaking up.
  - nickthemagicman 6y ago
    Just want to say one person here is a centrist and as they say "actions speak louder than words" and also.. "I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" People aren't stupid no matter what the left paints the right as ...and I don't know if the left can continue to put a lid on this simmering pot of resentment from tens of millions of SILENCED people. The anger has a reason and can't just be ignored and hidden away. I think they made an egregious error and this anger is going to come back at them at some point.in the future.
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
      Until recently these people were not silenced in any significant way. That they thought they were was part of their whole warped world view where holding the presidency, a slim majority of the senate, and a slim minority of the house means that they are oppressed and unheard. It's like radical evangelicals who claim that Christians are being oppressed while a majority of our elected government identifies as Christian including the president of the united states (none of which have ever not identified as Chrsitian).
      - nickthemagicman 6y ago
        Until recently? They were recently silenced down to the AWS hosting level. I don't know if any of this has changed by now. But censorship is never a good idea.
        AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
        > Until recently? ...yes? Until all the social media banning started, these people were definitely, obviously, unambiguously not being silenced in any significant way.
        nickthemagicman 6y ago
        Sure. They weren't censored until they were censored? You're saying basically: "they weren't silenced until they were silenced." So what? They're censored now.
  - dang 6y ago
    If you continue to post unsubstantive comments and/or flamebait to HN, we are going to have to ban you again. We had to ask you this just a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25773385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25773385. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- AnHonestComment 6y ago
  Here’s his Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Angeli https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Angeli Apparently, he was trying to cast a spell by chanting as he walked down “ley lines”. Alternatively, someone with his background knew that he’d likely provoke a melodramatic response which in turn would turn more people against the establishment.

Nothing has reverted, they are creating a permanent green zone around the Capitol right now.

BrianOnHN 6y ago

Are you saying that was his intention?

anewaccount2021 6y ago
Not explicitly, but surely everyone who has a longstanding axe to grind with the government is pleased to see a wedge driven between the establishment and the citizenry Its real change. What real change is created by pithy think pieces in WaPo, NYT, substack etc? None. The readers are invested in the establishment so they'll never offer more than the odd tish-tosh and go back to their lives. Take for example, established media discussions of climate change or Apple labor practices -the dear readers offer a witty condemnation in a comment but don't actually change their habits. edit: I can see why my comments earn dowvotes...HN readers think they are disruptors but in reality we are just the dweeb army slaving away to hold it all together
- the-dude 6y ago
  You are receiving up-votes too. Keep speaking up.
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  Just want to say one person here is a centrist and as they say "actions speak louder than words" and also.. "I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" People aren't stupid no matter what the left paints the right as ...and I don't know if the left can continue to put a lid on this simmering pot of resentment from tens of millions of SILENCED people. The anger has a reason and can't just be ignored and hidden away. I think they made an egregious error and this anger is going to come back at them at some point.in the future.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
    Until recently these people were not silenced in any significant way. That they thought they were was part of their whole warped world view where holding the presidency, a slim majority of the senate, and a slim minority of the house means that they are oppressed and unheard. It's like radical evangelicals who claim that Christians are being oppressed while a majority of our elected government identifies as Christian including the president of the united states (none of which have ever not identified as Chrsitian).
    - nickthemagicman 6y ago
      Until recently? They were recently silenced down to the AWS hosting level. I don't know if any of this has changed by now. But censorship is never a good idea.
      - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
        > Until recently? ...yes? Until all the social media banning started, these people were definitely, obviously, unambiguously not being silenced in any significant way.
        nickthemagicman 6y ago
        Sure. They weren't censored until they were censored? You're saying basically: "they weren't silenced until they were silenced." So what? They're censored now.
- dang 6y ago
  If you continue to post unsubstantive comments and/or flamebait to HN, we are going to have to ban you again. We had to ask you this just a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25773385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25773385. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
AnHonestComment 6y ago
Here’s his Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Angeli https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Angeli Apparently, he was trying to cast a spell by chanting as he walked down “ley lines”. Alternatively, someone with his background knew that he’d likely provoke a melodramatic response which in turn would turn more people against the establishment.