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A lot has already been said about them copying or borrowing or just getting their inspiration from Apple, so I'll skip that. Unless they fully opensource the co

by pratio 6y ago

A lot has already been said about them copying or borrowing or just getting their inspiration from Apple, so I'll skip that. Unless they fully opensource the code it is unlikely to get any traction. And if it is really based on Linux we're likely going to see UI and UX issues, An OS is more than just a some fancy icons and modded apps. The transitions that they show in the demo are not easy to achieve as in stability of the software. It looks very clean but unlike elementary OS, it doesn't feel authentic. I don't know what obsession people have with Apple but they aren't the only company getting designs and UX right. These avenues are unfortunately killing independent and new design ideas.

app4soft 6y ago
The worst thing is there that title should be: "Linux Distro Inspired by the iOS". iPad is a device, not OS.
- asidiali 6y ago
  iPad-flavored iOS is different than iPhone-flavored iOS. Even Apple calls it iPadOS: https://www.apple.com/ipados/ipados-14/ https://www.apple.com/ipados/ipados-14/ Their title seems accurate.
  - app4soft 6y ago
    iPad (device) != iPadOS (OS)
    - asidiali 6y ago
      Ok, yes, what’s your point? iPad != iPadOS != iOS which was your original modification to the title. My point is, it’s iPad specific. So iPad/iPadOS is fine here, and not iOS.
      - xellisx 6y ago
        And iOS != IOS (Cisco).
        asidiali 6y ago
        Lol duly noted.
- cueo 6y ago
  Thanks for your clarification. I wasn't able to make head or tail of the title without reading your comment. /s
- TulliusCicero 6y ago
  This seems needlessly pedantic since even Apple uses the term iPadOS.
alexfromapex 6y ago
I don’t think there’s an obsession with Apple so much as there is an obsession with the minimalism and an alignment of the design goals into an ecosystem that Apple has demonstrated.
- pratio 6y ago
  You're not wrong about the alignment of design but it is definitely not minimalist design. I've been using and upgrading iPads for the last 6 years and with each release the menus and options are becoming more convoluted. But there is a certain consistency across all Apple devices which does make it easy. JingOS seems heavily inspired as in a massive lack of any original concept. Even the browser shown in the demo looks so much like safari. The notifications on the corner. The swipe up gestures etc. Even the design story of icons is heavily inspired.
  - machello13 6y ago
    > with each release the menus and options are becoming more convoluted. But there is a certain consistency across all Apple devices which does make it easy. Honest question, how do you add more features + abilities to an OS without adding more menus in more places?
    - pratio 6y ago
      I am not saying that new features don't need menus but maybe they could be simplified? The copy, paste select system on iOS is poor IMO. The new tab/ new private tab has been done better on chrome. What I wished to say in the original comment was that if new ideas aren't given a chance we might never see something different, might be radically different and we might just like some things about it.
- sangnoir 6y ago
  There definitely is an obsession with Apple in a subset of the "design community" - I've seen lots of aping of aesthetics with no functional justification (such as web sites with brushed aluminum and linen textures which became popular after OS X releases that featured the same cues)
fartcannon 6y ago
I don't know why people think Apple even has a good UI. Because it all looks the same? None of it makes any sense if you have any experience other than Mac/iOS. Let us never forget that we are holding it wrong.
- koffiezet 6y ago
  > Because it all looks the same? No, because it's offers one of the most consistent UX. It's far from perfect, but Apple manages to make this happen on both iOS/OSX.
FreddGreen 6y ago
I think it will get traction because there are tonnes of low end windows tablets out there that only have 2 gb ram and 32 gb storage that can barely even run windows and jing os which is using a modified plasma mobile will be way faster on these low end windows tablets
- FreddGreen 6y ago
  https://forum.jingos.com/t/jingos-roadmap-v1-0-published-on-jan-2021/218 https://forum.jingos.com/t/jingos-roadmap-v1-0-published-on-... shows it is based on Ubuntu 20.04 and Plasma Mobile if you want a source for "jing os which is using a modified plasma mobile"
- pratio 6y ago
  The low end tablets will meet the same fate as the low end android ones. Applications developed using the high end devices in mind will run painfully slow or perform miserably on the lower end ones. The higher end tablets might come with extra graphics support and such which would leave developers flummoxed on which devices to target. Of course gaining traction as a closed source Chinese OS would be very difficult and unless we can see some code ourselves and run it locally, its all just speculation.

by pratio 6y ago

app4soft 6y ago

The worst thing is there that title should be: "Linux Distro Inspired by the iOS". iPad is a device, not OS.

asidiali 6y ago
iPad-flavored iOS is different than iPhone-flavored iOS. Even Apple calls it iPadOS: https://www.apple.com/ipados/ipados-14/ https://www.apple.com/ipados/ipados-14/ Their title seems accurate.
- app4soft 6y ago
  iPad (device) != iPadOS (OS)
  - asidiali 6y ago
    Ok, yes, what’s your point? iPad != iPadOS != iOS which was your original modification to the title. My point is, it’s iPad specific. So iPad/iPadOS is fine here, and not iOS.
    - xellisx 6y ago
      And iOS != IOS (Cisco).
      - asidiali 6y ago
        Lol duly noted.
cueo 6y ago
Thanks for your clarification. I wasn't able to make head or tail of the title without reading your comment. /s
TulliusCicero 6y ago
This seems needlessly pedantic since even Apple uses the term iPadOS.

alexfromapex 6y ago

I don’t think there’s an obsession with Apple so much as there is an obsession with the minimalism and an alignment of the design goals into an ecosystem that Apple has demonstrated.

pratio 6y ago
You're not wrong about the alignment of design but it is definitely not minimalist design. I've been using and upgrading iPads for the last 6 years and with each release the menus and options are becoming more convoluted. But there is a certain consistency across all Apple devices which does make it easy. JingOS seems heavily inspired as in a massive lack of any original concept. Even the browser shown in the demo looks so much like safari. The notifications on the corner. The swipe up gestures etc. Even the design story of icons is heavily inspired.
- machello13 6y ago
  > with each release the menus and options are becoming more convoluted. But there is a certain consistency across all Apple devices which does make it easy. Honest question, how do you add more features + abilities to an OS without adding more menus in more places?
  - pratio 6y ago
    I am not saying that new features don't need menus but maybe they could be simplified? The copy, paste select system on iOS is poor IMO. The new tab/ new private tab has been done better on chrome. What I wished to say in the original comment was that if new ideas aren't given a chance we might never see something different, might be radically different and we might just like some things about it.
sangnoir 6y ago
There definitely is an obsession with Apple in a subset of the "design community" - I've seen lots of aping of aesthetics with no functional justification (such as web sites with brushed aluminum and linen textures which became popular after OS X releases that featured the same cues)

fartcannon 6y ago

I don't know why people think Apple even has a good UI. Because it all looks the same? None of it makes any sense if you have any experience other than Mac/iOS. Let us never forget that we are holding it wrong.

koffiezet 6y ago
> Because it all looks the same? No, because it's offers one of the most consistent UX. It's far from perfect, but Apple manages to make this happen on both iOS/OSX.

FreddGreen 6y ago

I think it will get traction because there are tonnes of low end windows tablets out there that only have 2 gb ram and 32 gb storage that can barely even run windows and jing os which is using a modified plasma mobile will be way faster on these low end windows tablets

FreddGreen 6y ago
https://forum.jingos.com/t/jingos-roadmap-v1-0-published-on-jan-2021/218 https://forum.jingos.com/t/jingos-roadmap-v1-0-published-on-... shows it is based on Ubuntu 20.04 and Plasma Mobile if you want a source for "jing os which is using a modified plasma mobile"
pratio 6y ago
The low end tablets will meet the same fate as the low end android ones. Applications developed using the high end devices in mind will run painfully slow or perform miserably on the lower end ones. The higher end tablets might come with extra graphics support and such which would leave developers flummoxed on which devices to target. Of course gaining traction as a closed source Chinese OS would be very difficult and unless we can see some code ourselves and run it locally, its all just speculation.