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> I’m also all in on USB-c (even my shaver uses it for charging) It's funny how different people's experiences can be. Maybe it's because I'm not in the Apple

> I’m also all in on USB-c (even my shaver uses it for charging) It's funny how different people's experiences can be. Maybe it's because I'm not in the Apple ecosystem and tend to use my devices until they break, but I own a single device that uses usb-c: a raspberry pi 4b. There are two other usb-c ports in my house, one on my laptop and one on my desktop, but I've never used them. I don't even own a separate usb-c cable (the pi charger is integrated). I kind of dread making the switch for peripherals because I'm going to have to replace everything.

bartvk 6y ago
> because I'm going to have to replace everything You mean, you'll have to replace the cables. Not the devices themselves, unless you want to be able to use USB-C-to-C cables everywhere.
- smichel17 6y ago
  Actually, I mean that I'm dreading the choice between replacing everything and dealing with a hodgepodge of different cables. Right now, all of the "source" devices (for lack of a better word) have USB-A "out" — laptop, desktop, charging bricks — and all the peripherals — phone, tablet, bluetooth speaker, xbox controller… — have USB-Micro "in". Thus, the only type of usb cable that I need is A->Micro. If/when I replace my phone, I have my first USB-C peripheral, but the others haven't disappeared, so now I need both my old A->Micro cables and A->C for my phone. Same for my laptop, on the source end — now I need C->C and C->Micro, too. It gets worse: it's rare that I want to charge/connect all my peripherals at once, but it's common that I'll want to charge any two. Plus, you always want a spare. So now instead of ~3 cables, I'm going to end up with probably 7 or 8, and when I go to grab one out of the drawer I'll need to check both ends of the cable to know I'm getting the right one… ugh. The only way to keep the combinations under control is to replace all source devices or all peripherals at once (or take the middle ground and buy a bunch of C->Micro dongles, pair one with each peripheral, and now they're faux-C peripherals). None of these options are particularly appealing to me. I'm being a little melodramatic. It's not really that big of a deal. I'll live through it and eventually I'll make it out the other end and maybe I'll be in a C->C golden era. I'm just not looking forward to the transition when USB cable story right now is pretty simple (even if I dislike Micro; Mini was a far nicer connector).
  - justincormack 6y ago
    You can get USB A to C and vice versa adaptors not cables. They are a bit weird in that you cant plug the cables in both ways up but they do work. More convenient and cheaper than lots more cables (and lots of items have captive cables).
    - ProZsolt 6y ago
      Section 2.2 of the USB Type-C Specification[1] explicitly forbids this kind of adapter: USB Type-C receptacle to USB legacy adapters are explicitly not defined or allowed. Such adapters would allow many invalid and potentially unsafe cable connections to be constructed by users. [1]: https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB%20Type-C%20Spec%20R2.0%20-%20August%202019.pdf https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB%20Type-C%20Spec%...
  - bartvk 6y ago
    OK yeah, you're right about that. Some thing that _will_ be easier though, is your laptop. When you get a new one, get one that charges over USB-C. That option was obviously never available with micro-USB.

bartvk 6y ago

> because I'm going to have to replace everything You mean, you'll have to replace the cables. Not the devices themselves, unless you want to be able to use USB-C-to-C cables everywhere.

smichel17 6y ago
Actually, I mean that I'm dreading the choice between replacing everything and dealing with a hodgepodge of different cables. Right now, all of the "source" devices (for lack of a better word) have USB-A "out" — laptop, desktop, charging bricks — and all the peripherals — phone, tablet, bluetooth speaker, xbox controller… — have USB-Micro "in". Thus, the only type of usb cable that I need is A->Micro. If/when I replace my phone, I have my first USB-C peripheral, but the others haven't disappeared, so now I need both my old A->Micro cables and A->C for my phone. Same for my laptop, on the source end — now I need C->C and C->Micro, too. It gets worse: it's rare that I want to charge/connect all my peripherals at once, but it's common that I'll want to charge any two. Plus, you always want a spare. So now instead of ~3 cables, I'm going to end up with probably 7 or 8, and when I go to grab one out of the drawer I'll need to check both ends of the cable to know I'm getting the right one… ugh. The only way to keep the combinations under control is to replace all source devices or all peripherals at once (or take the middle ground and buy a bunch of C->Micro dongles, pair one with each peripheral, and now they're faux-C peripherals). None of these options are particularly appealing to me. I'm being a little melodramatic. It's not really that big of a deal. I'll live through it and eventually I'll make it out the other end and maybe I'll be in a C->C golden era. I'm just not looking forward to the transition when USB cable story right now is pretty simple (even if I dislike Micro; Mini was a far nicer connector).
- justincormack 6y ago
  You can get USB A to C and vice versa adaptors not cables. They are a bit weird in that you cant plug the cables in both ways up but they do work. More convenient and cheaper than lots more cables (and lots of items have captive cables).
  - ProZsolt 6y ago
    Section 2.2 of the USB Type-C Specification[1] explicitly forbids this kind of adapter: USB Type-C receptacle to USB legacy adapters are explicitly not defined or allowed. Such adapters would allow many invalid and potentially unsafe cable connections to be constructed by users. [1]: https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB%20Type-C%20Spec%20R2.0%20-%20August%202019.pdf https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB%20Type-C%20Spec%...
- bartvk 6y ago
  OK yeah, you're right about that. Some thing that _will_ be easier though, is your laptop. When you get a new one, get one that charges over USB-C. That option was obviously never available with micro-USB.