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Relax dude. Tencent QQ does not represent China. It’s just one company. Facebook does some shady shit too. Like stealing all your phone contacts list, without

Relax dude. Tencent QQ does not represent China. It’s just one company. Facebook does some shady shit too. Like stealing all your phone contacts list, without your permission. This is also a terrible invasion of your privacy. By your logic, since Facebook is an American company, then by extension, this shitty behavior is reflective of all of America. Besides, who uses QQ on their computers anymore?

gruez 6y ago
>Facebook does some shady shit too. Like stealing all your phone contacts list, without your permission. Without informed consent maybe, but without permission? I doubt it. Please enlighten me on how the facebook app is able to bypass the android/ios sandbox. >By your logic, since Facebook is an American company, then by extension, this shitty behavior is reflective of all of America. If facebook has a mandatory CCP err- DNC/RNC member on its board, I'd be inclined to agree with that.
bassman9000 6y ago
It’s just one company. There's no private Chinese companies, only CCP subsidiaries. Comparisons with e.g. Facebook are moot. At this point, comments like this are plain disingenuous, or purposefully misleading.
- blackrock 6y ago
  What about getting a National Security Letter from the US government? Apparently, your company and your industry, must be important enough that the government will send you a Top Secret document, forcing you to comply, and also forcing you to maintain the secrecy of its existence, and to even deceive your customers of ever enacting its mandates. This sounds to me like the exact same thing as your argument here. That there are no private American companies, only American subsidiaries. And if you’re just a small private company that runs a noodle restaurant, then I highly doubt that the CCP really gives a damn about your company. What are they going to monitor? What magic ingredients you put into your soup?
  - bassman9000 6y ago
    What about getting a National Security Letter from the US government? A case by case basis, limited in reach, for only a small subset of companies, and overseen by the Justice Department. In no way comparable to the Chinese law, which mandates every bit of every company to be surrendered to the state, on demand, without questions. And the recent Ma/Ali affair should tell you the vast difference in state reach. That there are no private American companies, only American subsidiaries. Again, absurd comparison because the above. And if you’re just a small private company that runs a noodle restaurant, then I highly doubt that the CCP really gives a damn about your company. What are they going to monitor? What magic ingredients you put into your soup? It doesn't matter. See above.
  - stjohnswarts 6y ago
    Name the last American billionaire who fell off the face of the planet without an explanation that got traced back to the US government for critical. If it were true Theil and Koch (brothers) would have dropped out of the phone directory a long time ago. I think that sums up the way the chessboard is set up for for American vs Chinese style capitalism.
    - blackrock 6y ago
      Your argument makes absolutely no sense. Why would the US government eliminate Theil or Koch? They are not trying to eliminate the system, when they are the elite of the system. Their funding perpetuates the American government itself. Don’t you get it?

gruez 6y ago

>Facebook does some shady shit too. Like stealing all your phone contacts list, without your permission. Without informed consent maybe, but without permission? I doubt it. Please enlighten me on how the facebook app is able to bypass the android/ios sandbox. >By your logic, since Facebook is an American company, then by extension, this shitty behavior is reflective of all of America. If facebook has a mandatory CCP err- DNC/RNC member on its board, I'd be inclined to agree with that.

bassman9000 6y ago

It’s just one company. There's no private Chinese companies, only CCP subsidiaries. Comparisons with e.g. Facebook are moot. At this point, comments like this are plain disingenuous, or purposefully misleading.

blackrock 6y ago
What about getting a National Security Letter from the US government? Apparently, your company and your industry, must be important enough that the government will send you a Top Secret document, forcing you to comply, and also forcing you to maintain the secrecy of its existence, and to even deceive your customers of ever enacting its mandates. This sounds to me like the exact same thing as your argument here. That there are no private American companies, only American subsidiaries. And if you’re just a small private company that runs a noodle restaurant, then I highly doubt that the CCP really gives a damn about your company. What are they going to monitor? What magic ingredients you put into your soup?
- bassman9000 6y ago
  What about getting a National Security Letter from the US government? A case by case basis, limited in reach, for only a small subset of companies, and overseen by the Justice Department. In no way comparable to the Chinese law, which mandates every bit of every company to be surrendered to the state, on demand, without questions. And the recent Ma/Ali affair should tell you the vast difference in state reach. That there are no private American companies, only American subsidiaries. Again, absurd comparison because the above. And if you’re just a small private company that runs a noodle restaurant, then I highly doubt that the CCP really gives a damn about your company. What are they going to monitor? What magic ingredients you put into your soup? It doesn't matter. See above.
- stjohnswarts 6y ago
  Name the last American billionaire who fell off the face of the planet without an explanation that got traced back to the US government for critical. If it were true Theil and Koch (brothers) would have dropped out of the phone directory a long time ago. I think that sums up the way the chessboard is set up for for American vs Chinese style capitalism.
  - blackrock 6y ago
    Your argument makes absolutely no sense. Why would the US government eliminate Theil or Koch? They are not trying to eliminate the system, when they are the elite of the system. Their funding perpetuates the American government itself. Don’t you get it?