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Let’s note that while a bar has to allow the public entry, if your speech or actions inside the bar starts a fight, they can bounce you. No written terms of ser
by quantified 6y ago
Let’s note that while a bar has to allow the public entry, if your speech or actions inside the bar starts a fight, they can bounce you. No written terms of service needed. Just threatening the bartender might be enough.
People might be deplatformed, but they can still write, publish anywhere that will accept their writing, call people on the phone... do anything they could do in the year 1999, 207 years after the Constitution was established.
Shunning might be just fine in society, it always has been accepted. Look at the racial history of Chicago in 1919 and early 1950’s. Shunning after norms have been breached AGAINST STATED MORALS has been perfectly fine. We’re not talking races or creeds being deplatformed here. It took a lot of provocation.
Maybe we’re being inconsistent and expedient. Soul-searching is called for. I support the ACLU and admire their consistency, they’ve supported the truly reprehensible. Not sure if they’ve ever been called on to defend the deepest taboos, but they’ve gone deep enough. Yet it would be interesting to work through them defending the speech that, for example, exhorted people to kill ACLU attorneys. I imagine there are limits somewhere.
Trumbo breached someone’s norms and was deplatformed. He forced the world to allow his redemption. Let’s see the deplatformed show themselves worthy of redemption.
And there need to be some well-thought-out movements to address aome of the causes that get folks to go so over the edge. There are many causes, economic, educational, societal. Flat-out bigoted neighborhoods are more likely to crank out flat-out bigoted generations, that’ll be a hard one for a long time. But less “us” v “them” could be accomplished.
- anothernewdude 6y agoBars do not have to allow the public entry, indeed that's half the work of bouncers.
- quantified 6y agoYou’re right, I was thinking of even neighborhood bars. Along those lines, is it not the case that Twitter, FB and all other social-media sites could institute user vetting and behave more like a club? Some services are invite-only already. Obviously changes the business model, just pointing out the perfect legality.
- redis_mlc 6y ago> Trumbo breached someone’s norms and was deplatformed. Actually he didn't. If you have a quote proving that, please post it. The narrative constructed by the left is that: - That Trump made racist statements. He didn't. - That there was "voter fraud" (there always is), but not "widespread voter fraud" (which there was) - That there was a Republican "insurrection." Actually BLM/antifa activists were first into the Capitol.