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Check out these patents currently assigned to US Secretary of Navy and invented by "Salvatore Cezar Pais" https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+

Check out these patents currently assigned to US Secretary of Navy and invented by "Salvatore Cezar Pais" https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais Then think about the tic tac ufo UFO reports from US Navy fighter pilots [1] What's going on here? Disinformation campaign from US Navy? Actual patents? Maybe the downloadbal PDFs are malware vectors for espionage? Seems highly unlikely that this tech actually exists AND is publicly available information, right? [1] https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ

hindsightbias 6y ago
With such a wide diversity in radical patents, Occam’s Razor should be applied. He is either a magnitude more brilliant than Einstein or he’s a crackpot. “There is no relationship whatsoever between my assigned duties and the invention. The invention was made independently of any job performance or assigned tasks by the Branch or Section.” https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navys-ufo-patents-went-through-significant-internal-review-resulted-in-a-demo https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navy...
- ubertoop 6y ago
  That's fair, but then how do you explain the Tic Tac UFO reports from US Navy pilots? [1] [1] https://youtu.be/PkPn-YMp9vI https://youtu.be/PkPn-YMp9vI
  - hindsightbias 6y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard Worlds most advanced Navy systems and crews and all I get are fuzzy pics and descriptions.
    - pp19dd 6y ago
      Might be worth something to watch part of the Lex Fridman interview with one of the pilots, David Fravor. The entire podcast is four hours long and goes over his career and experiences, I'd argue establishes him as a competent naval officer and pilot. The timecode is when he describes the actual event- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E&t=4264s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E&t=4264s In the interview he also describes the record keeping process and basically some of the head scratchers you're bringing about. One other thing the pilot confirms in that interview is the validity (authenticity) of the leaked "Executive Summary" report, which, was leaked to media and (as far as I know) not really pursued for authenticity verification by others (PDF): https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/18/TIC%20TAC%20UFO%20EXECUTIVE%20REPORT_1526682843046_42960218_ver1.0.pdf https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document...
      - mcswell 6y ago
        I think it was Richard Feynman who said the easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. I have no doubt this pilot is a good officer and pilot, but that doesn't mean he saw what he thinks he saw.
        ubertoop 6y ago
        He is not the only highly qualified navy pilot who saw these crafts. [1] And the 2004 event is not the only time the US Navy has seen these crafts. There was another event in 2014. [2] [1] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/tic-tac-ufo-video-q-and-a-with-navy-pilot-chad-underwood.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/tic-tac-ufo-video-q-... [2} https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings...
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        pp19dd 6y ago
        Oh, no, sorry - I deliberately didn't interpret the validity of the claim or try to address it. I don't live in the dream land, and I try to double check reality best I can. To this day all I have from all this is head scratching and we have no proof of anything aside from that the Pentagon -for whatever reason- has confirmed that the cockpit videos were genuinely released by them. You can request them yourself from the Pentagon, directly. I am convinced that the man is a good officer and a competent pilot. That is all. Occam's razor: things outlined in that report are true -or - the man is a true patriot, participating in a disinformation campaign design to bankrupt the Chinese or Russians in attempting to recreate some of the very expensive things outlined in the larger picture described here. But I keep peeled to anything related to this story because the implication behind the claims are potentially world-changing.
  - nobodywasishere 6y ago
    All three of these videos have perfectly reasonable explanations. See [1] [2] [3] [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs https://youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs [2] https://youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4 [3] https://youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA https://youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA
- gbh444g 6y ago
  Or maybe he's another Edison. I mean, he's likely the nominal inventor: other people do the research, but only his name appears on papers.
  - hindsightbias 6y ago
    Any of 5 or so of those patents would win a Nobel Prize if real. And any PhD working with/for him would have strangled him already if he left contributors off.
    - frongpik 6y ago
      Nobel prize is a measly sum of money split among all contributors, plus some fame.
raiflip 6y ago
Regardless of whether or not gravitons actually exist, it is feasible that the US government will want to signal to adversaries that they do have this technology. After all, a deterrent is useless if your adversary doesn't know it exists. You can't be deterred by something you don't know about.
jb775 6y ago
I don't see any reason for a public patent besides disinformation. I don't think any foreign gov would fall for this, so my guess is a disinformation campaign against average people...to make them think this is the current state of flight technology. (I think it's significantly greater. The underlying mechanisms here have been known for a very long time. Just look into the details and date ranges of: the piesel electric effect, work of Harold Aspden, Planck's equation, Maxwell's equation, Robert Adam's motor, Dewey Larson physics)
- radicaldreamer 6y ago
  Can you elaborate on what you think the current state is?
jml7c5 6y ago
It's crackpots the whole way down. The whole Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (which is responsible for the release of the Navy UFO videos) was spearheaded by Robert Bigelow, who bought "Skinwalker Ranch" because he believed there were inter-dimensional portals and aliens were mutilating cows. It turns out crackpots can get government funding, too.

hindsightbias 6y ago

With such a wide diversity in radical patents, Occam’s Razor should be applied. He is either a magnitude more brilliant than Einstein or he’s a crackpot. “There is no relationship whatsoever between my assigned duties and the invention. The invention was made independently of any job performance or assigned tasks by the Branch or Section.” https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navys-ufo-patents-went-through-significant-internal-review-resulted-in-a-demo https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navy...

ubertoop 6y ago
That's fair, but then how do you explain the Tic Tac UFO reports from US Navy pilots? [1] [1] https://youtu.be/PkPn-YMp9vI https://youtu.be/PkPn-YMp9vI
- hindsightbias 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard Worlds most advanced Navy systems and crews and all I get are fuzzy pics and descriptions.
  - pp19dd 6y ago
    Might be worth something to watch part of the Lex Fridman interview with one of the pilots, David Fravor. The entire podcast is four hours long and goes over his career and experiences, I'd argue establishes him as a competent naval officer and pilot. The timecode is when he describes the actual event- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E&t=4264s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E&t=4264s In the interview he also describes the record keeping process and basically some of the head scratchers you're bringing about. One other thing the pilot confirms in that interview is the validity (authenticity) of the leaked "Executive Summary" report, which, was leaked to media and (as far as I know) not really pursued for authenticity verification by others (PDF): https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/18/TIC%20TAC%20UFO%20EXECUTIVE%20REPORT_1526682843046_42960218_ver1.0.pdf https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document...
    - mcswell 6y ago
      I think it was Richard Feynman who said the easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. I have no doubt this pilot is a good officer and pilot, but that doesn't mean he saw what he thinks he saw.
      - ubertoop 6y ago
        He is not the only highly qualified navy pilot who saw these crafts. [1] And the 2004 event is not the only time the US Navy has seen these crafts. There was another event in 2014. [2] [1] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/tic-tac-ufo-video-q-and-a-with-navy-pilot-chad-underwood.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/tic-tac-ufo-video-q-... [2} https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings...
      - deleted 6y ago
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      - pp19dd 6y ago
        Oh, no, sorry - I deliberately didn't interpret the validity of the claim or try to address it. I don't live in the dream land, and I try to double check reality best I can. To this day all I have from all this is head scratching and we have no proof of anything aside from that the Pentagon -for whatever reason- has confirmed that the cockpit videos were genuinely released by them. You can request them yourself from the Pentagon, directly. I am convinced that the man is a good officer and a competent pilot. That is all. Occam's razor: things outlined in that report are true -or - the man is a true patriot, participating in a disinformation campaign design to bankrupt the Chinese or Russians in attempting to recreate some of the very expensive things outlined in the larger picture described here. But I keep peeled to anything related to this story because the implication behind the claims are potentially world-changing.
- nobodywasishere 6y ago
  All three of these videos have perfectly reasonable explanations. See [1] [2] [3] [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs https://youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs [2] https://youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4 [3] https://youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA https://youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA
gbh444g 6y ago
Or maybe he's another Edison. I mean, he's likely the nominal inventor: other people do the research, but only his name appears on papers.
- hindsightbias 6y ago
  Any of 5 or so of those patents would win a Nobel Prize if real. And any PhD working with/for him would have strangled him already if he left contributors off.
  - frongpik 6y ago
    Nobel prize is a measly sum of money split among all contributors, plus some fame.

raiflip 6y ago

Regardless of whether or not gravitons actually exist, it is feasible that the US government will want to signal to adversaries that they do have this technology. After all, a deterrent is useless if your adversary doesn't know it exists. You can't be deterred by something you don't know about.

jb775 6y ago

I don't see any reason for a public patent besides disinformation. I don't think any foreign gov would fall for this, so my guess is a disinformation campaign against average people...to make them think this is the current state of flight technology. (I think it's significantly greater. The underlying mechanisms here have been known for a very long time. Just look into the details and date ranges of: the piesel electric effect, work of Harold Aspden, Planck's equation, Maxwell's equation, Robert Adam's motor, Dewey Larson physics)

radicaldreamer 6y ago
Can you elaborate on what you think the current state is?

jml7c5 6y ago

It's crackpots the whole way down. The whole Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (which is responsible for the release of the Navy UFO videos) was spearheaded by Robert Bigelow, who bought "Skinwalker Ranch" because he believed there were inter-dimensional portals and aliens were mutilating cows. It turns out crackpots can get government funding, too.