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Do you really have to launder them? I mean, you do as the smart contract says, it might not even be illegal.

VectorLock 6y ago
Everybody thinks "we don't need laws, we let the smart contracts handle it" until their smart contract is exploited and their funds "robbed."
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  Have any of the smart contract exploits actually been litigated in court, even if unsuccessfully?
- shawnz 6y ago
  I don't think "everybody thinks" that. Smart contracts just give you an alternative set of risks which might be more useful in certain circumstances. They are also not immune to having legal consequences either.
qqii 6y ago
In most cases yes, at some point the attacker will want to turn his tokens into cash and at that point he is at the mercy of centralised services who gets to decide. Here's an old computerphile video: https://youtu.be/UlLN0QERWBs https://youtu.be/UlLN0QERWBs Etherscan provides such a service for ethereum: https://info.etherscan.com/ethprotect/ https://info.etherscan.com/ethprotect/ As long as there are enough centralised services with enough volume that agree such tokens are tainted the decision is effectively made for the entire ecosystem.
- literallycancer 6y ago
  Just turn it into Monero or Zcash and take out via crypto ATM.
PeterisP 6y ago
Legally, intent matters, a contract is above all "a meeting of minds", and the technical nuances of what exactly the smart contract says only matter if it helps to establish what exactly that intent was - if the contract result clearly does not match the intent (or if the intent is invalid e.g. the contract was written with an intent to deceive) then what the contract says can/should be overridden. Just as in real life getting someone to sign on the dotted line with the intent to cheat them is fraud that can invalidate the contractual obligation, technical exploitation of a smart contract is the same. As you say, it might not even be illegal, details matter, but it might also well be a felony.

Everybody thinks "we don't need laws, we let the smart contracts handle it" until their smart contract is exploited and their funds "robbed."

Nextgrid 6y ago
Have any of the smart contract exploits actually been litigated in court, even if unsuccessfully?
shawnz 6y ago
I don't think "everybody thinks" that. Smart contracts just give you an alternative set of risks which might be more useful in certain circumstances. They are also not immune to having legal consequences either.

qqii 6y ago

In most cases yes, at some point the attacker will want to turn his tokens into cash and at that point he is at the mercy of centralised services who gets to decide. Here's an old computerphile video: https://youtu.be/UlLN0QERWBs https://youtu.be/UlLN0QERWBs Etherscan provides such a service for ethereum: https://info.etherscan.com/ethprotect/ https://info.etherscan.com/ethprotect/ As long as there are enough centralised services with enough volume that agree such tokens are tainted the decision is effectively made for the entire ecosystem.

literallycancer 6y ago
Just turn it into Monero or Zcash and take out via crypto ATM.

PeterisP 6y ago

Legally, intent matters, a contract is above all "a meeting of minds", and the technical nuances of what exactly the smart contract says only matter if it helps to establish what exactly that intent was - if the contract result clearly does not match the intent (or if the intent is invalid e.g. the contract was written with an intent to deceive) then what the contract says can/should be overridden. Just as in real life getting someone to sign on the dotted line with the intent to cheat them is fraud that can invalidate the contractual obligation, technical exploitation of a smart contract is the same. As you say, it might not even be illegal, details matter, but it might also well be a felony.