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They’re gonna use the money to fund their proxy groups and take control of the Middle East. Then they’re gonna build a bridge of control to Israel. When China

They’re gonna use the money to fund their proxy groups and take control of the Middle East. Then they’re gonna build a bridge of control to Israel. When China attacks Taiwan, North Korea will attack the South and Iran will attack Israel. All three will be using massive barrages of medium range missiles. Your strategy is just to give them what they want and they’ll be kind and we’ll all sing kumbaya. And I’m a Biden supporter, but just saying that it’s not that simple.

ChainOfFools 6y ago
exporting democratic culture is a long game but it is one the enlightenment will inevitably win.
LatteLazy 6y ago
Iran just want get on and be Iran. The idea they're in some sort of 3 way conspiracy is a bit silly isn't it? And given the huge military advantages Israel has, this is the least concerning of the three prospective conflicts isn't it? Alternatively, let's assume you're right. You only have 2 options, bring them on side with trade and diplomacy. Or war. War will make Iraq look like a fucking picnic. Iran is vastly larger. Their troops are better equipped and have higher morale. The population won't welcome American (or Israeli) troops. Even the terrain is a nightmare. So now you either have to commit to Vietnam 2.0 only worse and longer. Or make peace.
- randomopining 6y ago
  A bit silly just because you say it’s silly? All of these actors are pushing boundaries as far as they can, and waiting for the right moment. Israel has a tech advantage but nothing more. Plus their territory is small. One nuke would be catastrophic and a sustained missile attack would be heavy as well. Not little hezbollah missiles either. I’m not gonna act like I have the answer. Probably to push them into a corner until a new generation takes control, and until oil is worthless or worth less.
  - LatteLazy 6y ago
    >I’m not gonna act like I have the answer. Probably to push them into a corner until a new generation takes control, and until oil is worthless or worth less. The issue is, that will take a shite tonne of manpower. We're trying it in Yeman right now and failing. The same in Lebanon for the last few decades. Instead of making progress, we're actually losing. Iran has significantly increased its influence in Iraq since we "liberated it". So we either need to start sending in troops or reconsider entirely. I'm also hopeful that a new generation will take over and be Pro Western. It is the only long term solution here. But that won't happen if we continue to attack Iran, Sanction them for nothing etc. A while back, we (the west) picked Saudi as our ally in the region. That was a horrible mistake. Its time to reevaluate the whole map there and say "what's wrong with Iran as our, if not ally, person we can do business with?". The only alternative to this is either a huge war or defeat and the whole region falling under hostile control...
sudosysgen 6y ago
This is batshit crazy. Israel is a nuclear power and SK is under the American nuclear umbrella. NK has no plan of invasion of SK at all, and Iran will never invade Israel. It is content simply stopping Israeli agression over Syria and Lebanon which allows those countries to naturally align with Iran. I think you really don't have any clue of geopolitics or the motivations of Iran or North Korea.

ChainOfFools 6y ago

exporting democratic culture is a long game but it is one the enlightenment will inevitably win.

LatteLazy 6y ago

Iran just want get on and be Iran. The idea they're in some sort of 3 way conspiracy is a bit silly isn't it? And given the huge military advantages Israel has, this is the least concerning of the three prospective conflicts isn't it? Alternatively, let's assume you're right. You only have 2 options, bring them on side with trade and diplomacy. Or war. War will make Iraq look like a fucking picnic. Iran is vastly larger. Their troops are better equipped and have higher morale. The population won't welcome American (or Israeli) troops. Even the terrain is a nightmare. So now you either have to commit to Vietnam 2.0 only worse and longer. Or make peace.

randomopining 6y ago
A bit silly just because you say it’s silly? All of these actors are pushing boundaries as far as they can, and waiting for the right moment. Israel has a tech advantage but nothing more. Plus their territory is small. One nuke would be catastrophic and a sustained missile attack would be heavy as well. Not little hezbollah missiles either. I’m not gonna act like I have the answer. Probably to push them into a corner until a new generation takes control, and until oil is worthless or worth less.
- LatteLazy 6y ago
  >I’m not gonna act like I have the answer. Probably to push them into a corner until a new generation takes control, and until oil is worthless or worth less. The issue is, that will take a shite tonne of manpower. We're trying it in Yeman right now and failing. The same in Lebanon for the last few decades. Instead of making progress, we're actually losing. Iran has significantly increased its influence in Iraq since we "liberated it". So we either need to start sending in troops or reconsider entirely. I'm also hopeful that a new generation will take over and be Pro Western. It is the only long term solution here. But that won't happen if we continue to attack Iran, Sanction them for nothing etc. A while back, we (the west) picked Saudi as our ally in the region. That was a horrible mistake. Its time to reevaluate the whole map there and say "what's wrong with Iran as our, if not ally, person we can do business with?". The only alternative to this is either a huge war or defeat and the whole region falling under hostile control...

sudosysgen 6y ago

This is batshit crazy. Israel is a nuclear power and SK is under the American nuclear umbrella. NK has no plan of invasion of SK at all, and Iran will never invade Israel. It is content simply stopping Israeli agression over Syria and Lebanon which allows those countries to naturally align with Iran. I think you really don't have any clue of geopolitics or the motivations of Iran or North Korea.