Project and Product managers have to give this praise because they contribute much less to the project, but take the majority of the credit. Designers and Engin

Project and Product managers have to give this praise because they contribute much less to the project, but take the majority of the credit. Designers and Engineers do the actual work. This is the sad reality of most tech companies with more than 20 employees. Not having PMs and PdMs is a massive benefit of smaller orgs. Do everything you can to avoid hiring these people.