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I like the idea but what size dev teams do you imagine this working in? Seems like medium to large size teams in corporate companies with extra time on their ha

I like the idea but what size dev teams do you imagine this working in? Seems like medium to large size teams in corporate companies with extra time on their hands. Do you think this is basically a social score like China has?

thomas-vds 6y ago
Typically built for teams of less than 10 people, where everyone knows everyone and no one is hence ever reduced to their metrics :) The comparison with China's social score is a bit harsh IMO, as here there are no consequences for your "bad" behaviour, and on top the positive micro-interactions are fostered. When it comes to time it takes, goal is basically that it takes you less time than cheering via Slack (which you hopefully would do otherwise).
- tdy_err 6y ago
  > no consequences The screenshot on the landing page indicates some penalization for “breaking master” iirc
- kyle_martin1 6y ago
  On the website I see there are ways to lose points for bad behavior “Broken build on master -200pts”, etc. It seems like a social score to me. Perhaps you can just reward good behavior? So based on what you said, why would I just not message a coworker?: “Hey Dan thanks for pushing that bug fix so fast!” Personal acknowledgment and appreciation goes a long way. I’m not sure this score board really adds much more to that dynamic. Another thing I’m thinking is...this is a “vitamin” idea, not a “pain killer” idea. Meaning it’s not solving a pain point so you have an uphill battle to convince folks to even spend billable engineering hours to try it out. Sales advice: Seek to understand, respond less. Try to ask calibrated questions to learn why someone came to their conclusion/objection, over responding directly to it. This is where you learn the stuff that helps you iterate. I know it’s hard, it probably feels like you have to “defend” because it’s an “attack on you”— but it’s not. Actually.. this same advice applies to people leadership too. Also...it helps to thank people for their feedback. They took time out of their lives to help. :-)
- apocolyps6 6y ago
  One suggestion to avoid being a "social score" is to 1) Make the score private 2) Avoid numbers/points Maybe use thumbs up/down instead and have approximate scores?

thomas-vds 6y ago

Typically built for teams of less than 10 people, where everyone knows everyone and no one is hence ever reduced to their metrics :) The comparison with China's social score is a bit harsh IMO, as here there are no consequences for your "bad" behaviour, and on top the positive micro-interactions are fostered. When it comes to time it takes, goal is basically that it takes you less time than cheering via Slack (which you hopefully would do otherwise).

tdy_err 6y ago
> no consequences The screenshot on the landing page indicates some penalization for “breaking master” iirc
kyle_martin1 6y ago
On the website I see there are ways to lose points for bad behavior “Broken build on master -200pts”, etc. It seems like a social score to me. Perhaps you can just reward good behavior? So based on what you said, why would I just not message a coworker?: “Hey Dan thanks for pushing that bug fix so fast!” Personal acknowledgment and appreciation goes a long way. I’m not sure this score board really adds much more to that dynamic. Another thing I’m thinking is...this is a “vitamin” idea, not a “pain killer” idea. Meaning it’s not solving a pain point so you have an uphill battle to convince folks to even spend billable engineering hours to try it out. Sales advice: Seek to understand, respond less. Try to ask calibrated questions to learn why someone came to their conclusion/objection, over responding directly to it. This is where you learn the stuff that helps you iterate. I know it’s hard, it probably feels like you have to “defend” because it’s an “attack on you”— but it’s not. Actually.. this same advice applies to people leadership too. Also...it helps to thank people for their feedback. They took time out of their lives to help. :-)
apocolyps6 6y ago
One suggestion to avoid being a "social score" is to 1) Make the score private 2) Avoid numbers/points Maybe use thumbs up/down instead and have approximate scores?