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Matze doesn't seem to be able to reconcile these two conflicting ideas. - "free speech" meaning everything should be published on wildly accessible platforms,

Matze doesn't seem to be able to reconcile these two conflicting ideas. - "free speech" meaning everything should be published on wildly accessible platforms, including death threats and organizing attacks against individuals. - "personal privacy" where no one knows his address, largely so that he can avoid death threats and stop folks from organizing attacks.

kyrra 6y ago
My understanding is that Parler's TOS banned things like threats of violence. Sadly I can't find a mirror of their User Agreement right now. :(
- Miner49er 6y ago
  Here's their guidelines. However, I'm not sure these were the final rule. Matze said other rules at various points (like no porn, banning antifa users, etc) and also at one point claimed anything legal goes, so it's hard to say what ended up being enforced. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rikfE6Q-XSoJ:https://legal.parler.com/documents/Elaboration-on-Guidelines.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rikfE6...
- barnaclejive 6y ago
  so what, the TOS don't mean anything unless you make an effort to enforce them
- tzs 6y ago
  Here was their terms of service [1], as of 2021-01-09, converted from PDF to text. Here was their community guidelines [2], also as of 2021-01-09, converted from PDF to text. They also had an Elaboration-on-Guidelines.pdf. I tried to do that one, but pastebin.com said it contained offensive material and could only be made private, but the option to make private pastes was greyed out. I assume that is because I do not have an account. My PDF of that, grabbed on 2021-01-10, looks like it identical to the one Miner49er posted. [1] https://pastebin.com/FTFMh4ad https://pastebin.com/FTFMh4ad [2] https://pastebin.com/a1mCqq6b https://pastebin.com/a1mCqq6b
imustbeevil 6y ago
Not only him, but all of the free speech advocates have this incongruity. You may notice that in this thread there isn't the usual volume of free speechers "falling over themselves" to comment. All of the boring absolute free speech comments we had to endure when violent speech was being removed from Facebook/Twitter and now they are dead silent when it involves Parler. Kind of illustrates a politically held position and not a rationally held one.

kyrra 6y ago

My understanding is that Parler's TOS banned things like threats of violence. Sadly I can't find a mirror of their User Agreement right now. :(

Miner49er 6y ago
Here's their guidelines. However, I'm not sure these were the final rule. Matze said other rules at various points (like no porn, banning antifa users, etc) and also at one point claimed anything legal goes, so it's hard to say what ended up being enforced. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rikfE6Q-XSoJ:https://legal.parler.com/documents/Elaboration-on-Guidelines.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rikfE6...
barnaclejive 6y ago
so what, the TOS don't mean anything unless you make an effort to enforce them
tzs 6y ago
Here was their terms of service [1], as of 2021-01-09, converted from PDF to text. Here was their community guidelines [2], also as of 2021-01-09, converted from PDF to text. They also had an Elaboration-on-Guidelines.pdf. I tried to do that one, but pastebin.com said it contained offensive material and could only be made private, but the option to make private pastes was greyed out. I assume that is because I do not have an account. My PDF of that, grabbed on 2021-01-10, looks like it identical to the one Miner49er posted. [1] https://pastebin.com/FTFMh4ad https://pastebin.com/FTFMh4ad [2] https://pastebin.com/a1mCqq6b https://pastebin.com/a1mCqq6b

imustbeevil 6y ago

Not only him, but all of the free speech advocates have this incongruity. You may notice that in this thread there isn't the usual volume of free speechers "falling over themselves" to comment. All of the boring absolute free speech comments we had to endure when violent speech was being removed from Facebook/Twitter and now they are dead silent when it involves Parler. Kind of illustrates a politically held position and not a rationally held one.