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Yes, once this is more mature, it should make it easier to write Signal bots. You can already do quite a lot with this awesome project: https://github.com/Asam

Yes, once this is more mature, it should make it easier to write Signal bots. You can already do quite a lot with this awesome project: https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli. It doesn't support everything though.

GekkePrutser 6y ago
But moxie hates third-party software using his servers. Isn't this bound to die? Unless sometime sets up a truly open signal server infrastructure.
- z77dj3kl 6y ago
  > But moxie hates third-party software using his servers. Does he? I doubt he really cares if some devs build a few projects around these kind of tools e.g. hobby projects. Either way, this project has existed for quite some time and the author has maintained it for quite some time now. It seems to be going strong.
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    He does, check this: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issuecomment-217211165 https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco... He's very much opposed to other projects using either the name Signal or the servers they provide. LibreSignal abandoned their project because of his comment. No legal action was taken and I think this is why libsignal-client is still running. Open Whisper Systems never bothered to sue them, probably because it's only a fringe phenomenon right now. His opinion is clear though and it leaves it open to legal action in the future. I agree it is his perogative but I wish there was an actual open network. I don't like moving from one vendor-lock-in (whatsapp) to another (signal). I want something where I can do with my conversations what I want, like Matrix. For this reason I don't advocate Signal to my friends as an alternative for Whatsapp.
- shezi 6y ago
  It is on the official Signal GitHub organisation, so it must have __some__ amount of blessing.
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    Oh ok I wasn't aware of that. I wonder why bridges like matrix-puppet-signal don't use it then. Because they currently run the full signal desktop app which is extremely wasteful if you're trying to run several bridges on your computer. From what I understood from the LibreSignal discussion: Open Whisper Systems provides the source for transparency only, not to enable others to make clients for their service. They're free to build their own servers (which obviously will be unable to communicate with official Signal users!) but not connect to Signal itself. The reason I keep pointing this out is that I'd really love for them to change their stance on this or at least allow federation from third-party Signal servers. It would really make it an open network. I don't want to move to something that is as locked-in as whatsapp as it is similarly dependent on their choices.

GekkePrutser 6y ago

But moxie hates third-party software using his servers. Isn't this bound to die? Unless sometime sets up a truly open signal server infrastructure.

z77dj3kl 6y ago
> But moxie hates third-party software using his servers. Does he? I doubt he really cares if some devs build a few projects around these kind of tools e.g. hobby projects. Either way, this project has existed for quite some time and the author has maintained it for quite some time now. It seems to be going strong.
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  He does, check this: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issuecomment-217211165 https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco... He's very much opposed to other projects using either the name Signal or the servers they provide. LibreSignal abandoned their project because of his comment. No legal action was taken and I think this is why libsignal-client is still running. Open Whisper Systems never bothered to sue them, probably because it's only a fringe phenomenon right now. His opinion is clear though and it leaves it open to legal action in the future. I agree it is his perogative but I wish there was an actual open network. I don't like moving from one vendor-lock-in (whatsapp) to another (signal). I want something where I can do with my conversations what I want, like Matrix. For this reason I don't advocate Signal to my friends as an alternative for Whatsapp.
shezi 6y ago
It is on the official Signal GitHub organisation, so it must have __some__ amount of blessing.
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  Oh ok I wasn't aware of that. I wonder why bridges like matrix-puppet-signal don't use it then. Because they currently run the full signal desktop app which is extremely wasteful if you're trying to run several bridges on your computer. From what I understood from the LibreSignal discussion: Open Whisper Systems provides the source for transparency only, not to enable others to make clients for their service. They're free to build their own servers (which obviously will be unable to communicate with official Signal users!) but not connect to Signal itself. The reason I keep pointing this out is that I'd really love for them to change their stance on this or at least allow federation from third-party Signal servers. It would really make it an open network. I don't want to move to something that is as locked-in as whatsapp as it is similarly dependent on their choices.