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Point of GP is that failing while hitting unexpected medical issues in the US will destroy your life with high probability. There is no prize for those who lost

by baby 6y ago

Point of GP is that failing while hitting unexpected medical issues in the US will destroy your life with high probability. There is no prize for those who lost, just a feel-good stories for those like OP who “survived”.

dvt 6y ago
This kind of mentality reminds me of solipsism. It's just not interesting to talk about, insightful, or productive, outside of being a contrarian edge-case you could write a paper about. Cool, you're a cynic. Yes, as we all know, most startups fail and the US healthcare system sucks. Anything else to add?
- baby 6y ago
  I'm not sure why you're having such a virulent reaction to my comment? That's probably the most important point about this whole thread, at least this is what I got from the post. If you want to feel good and feel empowered to build your own start up from OP's post, then I don't know what to think of your risk appetite.
  - dvt 6y ago
    > If you want to feel good and feel empowered to build your own start up from OP's post, then I don't know what to think of your risk appetite. You're attacking a strawman here. My point was merely that cynicism (which your post conveyed in spades), much like solipsism, is an unproductive dead-end. Feel free to make your case, but I'm fairly confident I'm correct.
    - baby 6y ago
      Not sure how you can describe my post as cynic[^1] to be honest. I think it's the reverse: people who find joy and feel butterfly in their stomach when 1 guy survive but the 9 others die on the streets are nothing but blind. [^1]: "an inclination to believe that people are motivated purely by self-interest; skepticism."
- vmception 6y ago
  I find it very productive to talk about. I’m glad it was the first comment for me. 2013: Their reddit, digg, forum posts went nowhere, their hackernews post hit 2021: Their reddit, twitter, forum posts went nowhere, and neither did their hackernews
gfxgirl 6y ago
Would be nice if there was a book/site that listed the 100k failures and their personal stories to the 1k success stories.
- dvt 6y ago
  There are hundreds of post-mortems online, and they're often shared and upvoted here on HN. The idea that this community only celebrates unicorns and success stories is pretty unfounded.
- DavidPeiffer 6y ago
  I'm picturing your idea like StumbleUpon, but with 1/1,000 of telling a success story. Don't Stumble too fast or you'll miss the success among all the failures! It's sort of like a failure resume, which is certainly an interesting exercise. https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/document/download/bed2706fd34e29822004dbe29cd00bb5.pdf/Johannes_Haushofer_CV_of_Failures%5B1%5D.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj8y-G9x5_uAhXFG80KHRBNDNIQFjABegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw2tSNKk0JlbSRRLPCGWMqtv https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/document/download/bed2706fd...

by baby 6y ago

dvt 6y ago

This kind of mentality reminds me of solipsism. It's just not interesting to talk about, insightful, or productive, outside of being a contrarian edge-case you could write a paper about. Cool, you're a cynic. Yes, as we all know, most startups fail and the US healthcare system sucks. Anything else to add?

baby 6y ago
I'm not sure why you're having such a virulent reaction to my comment? That's probably the most important point about this whole thread, at least this is what I got from the post. If you want to feel good and feel empowered to build your own start up from OP's post, then I don't know what to think of your risk appetite.
- dvt 6y ago
  > If you want to feel good and feel empowered to build your own start up from OP's post, then I don't know what to think of your risk appetite. You're attacking a strawman here. My point was merely that cynicism (which your post conveyed in spades), much like solipsism, is an unproductive dead-end. Feel free to make your case, but I'm fairly confident I'm correct.
  - baby 6y ago
    Not sure how you can describe my post as cynic[^1] to be honest. I think it's the reverse: people who find joy and feel butterfly in their stomach when 1 guy survive but the 9 others die on the streets are nothing but blind. [^1]: "an inclination to believe that people are motivated purely by self-interest; skepticism."
vmception 6y ago
I find it very productive to talk about. I’m glad it was the first comment for me. 2013: Their reddit, digg, forum posts went nowhere, their hackernews post hit 2021: Their reddit, twitter, forum posts went nowhere, and neither did their hackernews

gfxgirl 6y ago

Would be nice if there was a book/site that listed the 100k failures and their personal stories to the 1k success stories.

dvt 6y ago
There are hundreds of post-mortems online, and they're often shared and upvoted here on HN. The idea that this community only celebrates unicorns and success stories is pretty unfounded.
DavidPeiffer 6y ago
I'm picturing your idea like StumbleUpon, but with 1/1,000 of telling a success story. Don't Stumble too fast or you'll miss the success among all the failures! It's sort of like a failure resume, which is certainly an interesting exercise. https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/document/download/bed2706fd34e29822004dbe29cd00bb5.pdf/Johannes_Haushofer_CV_of_Failures%5B1%5D.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj8y-G9x5_uAhXFG80KHRBNDNIQFjABegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw2tSNKk0JlbSRRLPCGWMqtv https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/document/download/bed2706fd...