> And I submit that your lack of ability to conceptualize a GUI for doing the same thing does not mean one can't exist, but that is beside the point If you hav

> And I submit that your lack of ability to conceptualize a GUI for doing the same thing does not mean one can't exist, but that is beside the point If you have the time I would challenge you to spend an hour or two mocking up what you think a GUI with the same capabilities as powershell or bash would look like. I would genuinely be curious what you come up with. Personally I do not think it would be possible to do in an intuitive way. > Someone who is just getting started in a new programming environment shouldn't need to know the ins and outs of a dozen different tools, especially when those tools are used to solve problems that user has not even conceptualized the existence of yet. For some more complicated environments yeah it is hard to get the environment up and running. Python environment hell is a very really thing. But if you want a a simple environment to write a simple program is it trivially easy to get one up and running. I am on computer I’ve never downloaded python on. I just googled python IDE. Clicked on the top result, pycharm. Downloaded latest release clicked next 4-5 times without looking at options. Opened it. Agreed to some TOS. Clicked new project and then clicked next without looking at any settings. Then I clicked the big green run icon. It printed “Hi, PyCharm”. Python is a beginner friendly language and if I wanted to start programming it is probably the recommendation I would get. I did not have to know anything to install it and start programming. And even easier if I want to do front end development I just go to codepen.com and that’s all I need to do!