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I am thankful they pushed hard because that gave me reason enough to leave Whatsapp, an otherwise wonderful product, but I despised using a product that is asso

I am thankful they pushed hard because that gave me reason enough to leave Whatsapp, an otherwise wonderful product, but I despised using a product that is associated with Facebook. Left FB and Instagram years ago, only Whatsapp was left. Edit: Bought a piece of software [1] that perfectly exported five years of messages out of my cellphone, then I didn’t hesitate one day to delete my WhatsApp accout. I felt an incredible relief abandoning the last service I used from Facebook. [1]: „Backuptrans iPhone WhatsApp Transfer for Mac“

Hamuko 6y ago
I mean, it's not that wonderful. Like, I don't understand what was the point of Statuses. Never used it. Much prefer the cleanliness of Signal. The most wonderful thing about WhatsApp was that everyone you knew was there.
- rolleiflex 6y ago
  It's historical. IIRC WhatsApp started out as an app for people to post those statuses as they travel, to let know their family and friends their whereabouts. To that effect, the founder of Whatsapp was first talking about it in online frequent flyer forums such as FlyerTalk that he was already a member of. Chat came later.
  - Hamuko 6y ago
    Quick Google search would suggest that the current status feature was only added in 2017.
    - rahul003 6y ago
      rolleiflex is referring to the text status along with profile picture. The other new Status feature was added in 2017 when Facebook went crazy adding Snapchat Story like features to all their apps (Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, Whatsapp)
nowherebeen 6y ago
Me too. I am just waiting for my family members to switch, then I can be off FB once and for all..
- submeta 6y ago
  I am actively evangelising my family members to start using alternatives.
  - jdsalaro 6y ago
    > I am actively evangelising my family members to start using alternatives. Which specifically? I've finally succeeded in showing them the light regarding Signal. The only usable alternatives that come to mind is Gab for Twitter (or Mastodon but that'd be a stretch for most of them). With respect to Facebook and Instagram, I don't see a clear path to a seamless switch as with Whatsapp and Signal.
    - submeta 6y ago
      Telegram and Signal.
kps 6y ago
I have reluctantly been using Whatsapp to contact non-technical friends. In the past week, all of them have adopted Signal and/or Telegram, and I've deleted my Whatsapp account. It doesn't matter what they say now; Whatsapp needs to be crushed pour encourager les autres.
ethagnawl 6y ago
I know it's a non-starter for most of these group messaging and social media apps, but it'd be interesting to see one optimize for privacy (i.e. not mine user data/behavior/contacts) and fund the endeavor by charging for the app and/or usage.
- yc-kraln 6y ago
  So, Threema?

Hamuko 6y ago

I mean, it's not that wonderful. Like, I don't understand what was the point of Statuses. Never used it. Much prefer the cleanliness of Signal. The most wonderful thing about WhatsApp was that everyone you knew was there.

rolleiflex 6y ago
It's historical. IIRC WhatsApp started out as an app for people to post those statuses as they travel, to let know their family and friends their whereabouts. To that effect, the founder of Whatsapp was first talking about it in online frequent flyer forums such as FlyerTalk that he was already a member of. Chat came later.
- Hamuko 6y ago
  Quick Google search would suggest that the current status feature was only added in 2017.
  - rahul003 6y ago
    rolleiflex is referring to the text status along with profile picture. The other new Status feature was added in 2017 when Facebook went crazy adding Snapchat Story like features to all their apps (Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, Whatsapp)

nowherebeen 6y ago

Me too. I am just waiting for my family members to switch, then I can be off FB once and for all..

submeta 6y ago
I am actively evangelising my family members to start using alternatives.
- jdsalaro 6y ago
  > I am actively evangelising my family members to start using alternatives. Which specifically? I've finally succeeded in showing them the light regarding Signal. The only usable alternatives that come to mind is Gab for Twitter (or Mastodon but that'd be a stretch for most of them). With respect to Facebook and Instagram, I don't see a clear path to a seamless switch as with Whatsapp and Signal.
  - submeta 6y ago
    Telegram and Signal.

kps 6y ago

I have reluctantly been using Whatsapp to contact non-technical friends. In the past week, all of them have adopted Signal and/or Telegram, and I've deleted my Whatsapp account. It doesn't matter what they say now; Whatsapp needs to be crushed pour encourager les autres.

ethagnawl 6y ago

I know it's a non-starter for most of these group messaging and social media apps, but it'd be interesting to see one optimize for privacy (i.e. not mine user data/behavior/contacts) and fund the endeavor by charging for the app and/or usage.

yc-kraln 6y ago
So, Threema?