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https://app.element.io/ https://app.element.io/ -> click "create account" -> create account. The default is for a matrix.org account which is totally fine for

by Groxx 6y ago

https://app.element.io/ https://app.element.io/ -> click "create account" -> create account. The default is for a matrix.org account which is totally fine for anyone who can't/won't dig deeper.

Niten 6y ago
Does that create an account with end-to-end encryption? If not, it's not a replacement for Signal at all.
- eredengrin 6y ago
  yes
  - Niten 6y ago
    Oh, well nice, then
chopin24 6y ago
I tapped this link on my iPhone. There’s nothing that says create account. It says I have to download an app called Element. But you said it was called Matrix. This is the level of technical ability that you need to be targeting.
- Groxx 6y ago
  If you install the Element app, its first-launch is quite simple and newbie-friendly. There are a couple more "options" than e.g. WhatsApp, but they're presented very clearly: "Join millions free on the largest public server" or "Premium hosting for organizations" or "Custom & advanced settings" -> tap the first + free one -> Sign up / Sign in with a totally-normal experience after that. Re "you said it was called Matrix": fair, but I wouldn't send people to "matrix" / the protocol for any system with multiple implementations. I'd send them a link to one of the user-friendly apps (i.e. Element). Similarly, you wouldn't tell someone to join XMPP, you'd send them to the Google Hangouts or MSN Messenger or Playstation apps.
  - chopin24 6y ago
    The first launch on iPhone asks me if I want to share my contacts, and then outlines a massive paragraph explaining something about identity servers that I’m expected to choose. This is a friction-filled experience for someone coming from WhatsApp
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
    Does the default setup flow enable encryption, or is this something that has to be done manually? Also, search still doesn't work in encrypted rooms.

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https://app.element.io/ https://app.element.io/ -> click "create account" -> create account. The default is for a matrix.org account which is totally fine for

by Groxx 6y ago

https://app.element.io/ https://app.element.io/ -> click "create account" -> create account. The default is for a matrix.org account which is totally fine for anyone who can't/won't dig deeper.

Niten 6y ago
Does that create an account with end-to-end encryption? If not, it's not a replacement for Signal at all.
- eredengrin 6y ago
  yes
  - Niten 6y ago
    Oh, well nice, then
chopin24 6y ago
I tapped this link on my iPhone. There’s nothing that says create account. It says I have to download an app called Element. But you said it was called Matrix. This is the level of technical ability that you need to be targeting.
- Groxx 6y ago
  If you install the Element app, its first-launch is quite simple and newbie-friendly. There are a couple more "options" than e.g. WhatsApp, but they're presented very clearly: "Join millions free on the largest public server" or "Premium hosting for organizations" or "Custom & advanced settings" -> tap the first + free one -> Sign up / Sign in with a totally-normal experience after that. Re "you said it was called Matrix": fair, but I wouldn't send people to "matrix" / the protocol for any system with multiple implementations. I'd send them a link to one of the user-friendly apps (i.e. Element). Similarly, you wouldn't tell someone to join XMPP, you'd send them to the Google Hangouts or MSN Messenger or Playstation apps.
  - chopin24 6y ago
    The first launch on iPhone asks me if I want to share my contacts, and then outlines a massive paragraph explaining something about identity servers that I’m expected to choose. This is a friction-filled experience for someone coming from WhatsApp
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
    Does the default setup flow enable encryption, or is this something that has to be done manually? Also, search still doesn't work in encrypted rooms.