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I totally agree with your concerns about people being kept in their job for unjustified reasons. I think it's something we've all had experience with. At my fi

by ATsch 6y ago

I totally agree with your concerns about people being kept in their job for unjustified reasons. I think it's something we've all had experience with. At my first job, I had a horrible boss. A friend tried to speak up against him and was promptly fired. Turns out he was a relative of the CEO and was thus unfireable. Just a few weeks ago I also spoke to someone who told his experience of reporting someone for sexual harassment at a major tech company, just to learn that they were well aware of it but refused to do anything because of good performance. We should absolutely consider the role uninions can play regarding unfirable employees. Being able to push the company to get rid of them can have a huge impact on the well-being of workers.

bluGill 6y ago
If sexual harassment really exists a lawyer will be glad to help. Companies that don't take care of it end up in big trouble - to your lawyers advantage. Sexual harassment is one of several things that the legal system takes seriously.
- ATsch 6y ago
  I think the fact that you read that message and this was your conclusion is kind of concerning. Either way getting a restraining order or whatever on someone you work with is definitely not going to improve your situation, if you can even prove it in the first place.
  - stretchcat 6y ago
    Surely the lawyer would be for pursuing a lawsuit, not a restraining order.
- coffeemaniac 6y ago
  This is bad information. Certainly it can work out like this, but suing your employer in the US is very very difficult. Most tech workers have even signed away their right to do so via forced arbitration agreements. And even if you do, you're more likely to just waste your money pursuing the case (which a good attorney will tell you beforehand).
- TheCoelacanth 6y ago
  That's just objectively false. Look at all the cases of sexual harassment coming out where the perpetrator had been doing it for decades to dozens of people without any consequences. Getting sexual harassment claims taken seriously is an uphill battle and often harms the careers of the people who complain.
  - bluGill 6y ago
    I agree, but staying silent is not the answer.

by ATsch 6y ago

bluGill 6y ago

If sexual harassment really exists a lawyer will be glad to help. Companies that don't take care of it end up in big trouble - to your lawyers advantage. Sexual harassment is one of several things that the legal system takes seriously.

ATsch 6y ago
I think the fact that you read that message and this was your conclusion is kind of concerning. Either way getting a restraining order or whatever on someone you work with is definitely not going to improve your situation, if you can even prove it in the first place.
- stretchcat 6y ago
  Surely the lawyer would be for pursuing a lawsuit, not a restraining order.
coffeemaniac 6y ago
This is bad information. Certainly it can work out like this, but suing your employer in the US is very very difficult. Most tech workers have even signed away their right to do so via forced arbitration agreements. And even if you do, you're more likely to just waste your money pursuing the case (which a good attorney will tell you beforehand).
TheCoelacanth 6y ago
That's just objectively false. Look at all the cases of sexual harassment coming out where the perpetrator had been doing it for decades to dozens of people without any consequences. Getting sexual harassment claims taken seriously is an uphill battle and often harms the careers of the people who complain.
- bluGill 6y ago
  I agree, but staying silent is not the answer.