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> Telegram is not a secure chat application though. Fun fact: I didn't even write that. The rest is not so much for you personally as for a number Signal fans

> Telegram is not a secure chat application though. Fun fact: I didn't even write that. The rest is not so much for you personally as for a number Signal fans: I get it, I get it: Signal is best. But seriously: do you Signal fans have to derail every conversation? Do you have to take a jab at every other messenger at every given opportunity? Or can we agree that there's room for more than one solution? Because physical mail, email, irc, Telegram etc are probably going to stay around for a long time, at least until Signal solves: - large groups - backups - grows a stable messaging API - creates a Bot api - and starts teleporting physical goods - etc Until Signal solves all this we are going to have to deal with other mesaging solutions. Deal with it. Seriously. Yes: Signal is probably the most secure now IMO. No: talking down other messengers doesn't make it better. @dang: apologies in advance. I've tried hard to keep it polite.

stiltzkin 6y ago
There is an already ecosystem on Telegram bots, channels and groups that lacks Signal, even if all my contacts move to Signal i would still keep Telegram only for those features and many more.
- eitland 6y ago
  Exactly my point. We are going to have to live with various systems for a long time, IMO hopefully "forever" since competition typically often does wonderful things.
iak8god 6y ago
> But seriously: do you Signal fans have to derail every conversation? I don't really have a horse in this race, just a guy who was scrolling through these comments and was struck how rude and ridiculous this remark is. You're in a discussion thread for an article about Signal. You're the one who brought up Telegram and now you're having a little fit and accusing Signal fans of "derail[ing] every conversation"? This conversation is about Signal. If you didn't want people comparing it to Telegram, why did you bring it up?
- eitland 6y ago
  > You're in a discussion thread for an article about Signal. You're the one who brought up Telegram This would be a good point, if it wasn't for the point that the only reason I brought up Telegram was to say I was a Telegram user cheering for the Signal team!
  - iak8god 6y ago
    Fair.
thekyle 6y ago
> do you Signal fans have to derail every conversation? I know this happens a lot in other threads about other messengers, so it's probably a fair comment. But I find there is something ironic about someone commenting on a story about Signal that they use Telegram and then complaining that other users talking about Signal are derailing the conversation.

stiltzkin 6y ago

There is an already ecosystem on Telegram bots, channels and groups that lacks Signal, even if all my contacts move to Signal i would still keep Telegram only for those features and many more.

eitland 6y ago
Exactly my point. We are going to have to live with various systems for a long time, IMO hopefully "forever" since competition typically often does wonderful things.

iak8god 6y ago

> But seriously: do you Signal fans have to derail every conversation? I don't really have a horse in this race, just a guy who was scrolling through these comments and was struck how rude and ridiculous this remark is. You're in a discussion thread for an article about Signal. You're the one who brought up Telegram and now you're having a little fit and accusing Signal fans of "derail[ing] every conversation"? This conversation is about Signal. If you didn't want people comparing it to Telegram, why did you bring it up?

eitland 6y ago
> You're in a discussion thread for an article about Signal. You're the one who brought up Telegram This would be a good point, if it wasn't for the point that the only reason I brought up Telegram was to say I was a Telegram user cheering for the Signal team!
- iak8god 6y ago
  Fair.

thekyle 6y ago

> do you Signal fans have to derail every conversation? I know this happens a lot in other threads about other messengers, so it's probably a fair comment. But I find there is something ironic about someone commenting on a story about Signal that they use Telegram and then complaining that other users talking about Signal are derailing the conversation.