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I'm actually kind of curious about this now. Right now this is hack...5? against something under the Sony umbrella. 1. Just because it's got "Sony" in the name

I'm actually kind of curious about this now. Right now this is hack...5? against something under the Sony umbrella. 1. Just because it's got "Sony" in the name, how related are these, really? Does Sony actually have a hand in all of them, or were they just random companies that were acquired and picked up the "Sony" brand name, instead of keeping their own and saying "Owned by X", like (for example) Blizzard and Activision? 2. I realize that 90% of this is because apparently it's fun to kick Sony while they're down, both in terms of crackers saying "Let's poke at Sony sites until we find something, trololo" and media sites saying "Hey, people don't like Sony, let's get some free pagehits and report on this!" Would this hack in particular, and the Sony Thailand from earlier, have even been noted in any tech forum or news site anywhere before the PSN outage?

eitland 15y ago
> 2. I realize that 90% of this is because apparently it's fun to kick Sony while they're down Guess Sony isn't "down" yet. Also guess the attacks have less to do with Sony being "up" or "down" and more to do with Sonys history of attacking people held in high esteem by the ones who are capable and willing to attack. Free advice for Sony: Stop harassing researchers. Measure hacking attempts before / after.
- pseudonym 15y ago
  I would actually be curious how much of this is recourse for Geohot, although there's probably no possible way of empirically finding out. That said, I'd be willing to bet that "people who hack Sony to protest Geohot" and "people who hack Sony to steal other people's credit cards" are two different camps. As to the Sony being "down", I'd contend they are. Their reputation for security is in the shitter, and any hacks executed now are going to have a far greater effect than they would at any other time (again, I doubt things like this or the Thailand hack would have ever made news sites in any fashion before the PSN outage).
swaits 15y ago
They're all under the Sony umbrella, but Sony Music, Sony Pictures, Sony Computer (PlayStation), Sony Online (Everquest, etc.), and Sony Electronics (TVs, etc.) are all indeed separate companies. And, there are separate companies based on region; Sony Computer Entertainment America, Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, etc.
WettowelReactor 15y ago
I was at a CIO conference a few weeks ago (just after PSN went down) and the Sony reps there stated that Sony was undertaking a massive effort to centralize all their servers across divisions into one group in a cost saving measure. Not sure how accurate that info is but it may be a contributing factor to these problems.

eitland 15y ago

> 2. I realize that 90% of this is because apparently it's fun to kick Sony while they're down Guess Sony isn't "down" yet. Also guess the attacks have less to do with Sony being "up" or "down" and more to do with Sonys history of attacking people held in high esteem by the ones who are capable and willing to attack. Free advice for Sony: Stop harassing researchers. Measure hacking attempts before / after.

pseudonym 15y ago
I would actually be curious how much of this is recourse for Geohot, although there's probably no possible way of empirically finding out. That said, I'd be willing to bet that "people who hack Sony to protest Geohot" and "people who hack Sony to steal other people's credit cards" are two different camps. As to the Sony being "down", I'd contend they are. Their reputation for security is in the shitter, and any hacks executed now are going to have a far greater effect than they would at any other time (again, I doubt things like this or the Thailand hack would have ever made news sites in any fashion before the PSN outage).

swaits 15y ago

They're all under the Sony umbrella, but Sony Music, Sony Pictures, Sony Computer (PlayStation), Sony Online (Everquest, etc.), and Sony Electronics (TVs, etc.) are all indeed separate companies. And, there are separate companies based on region; Sony Computer Entertainment America, Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, etc.

WettowelReactor 15y ago

I was at a CIO conference a few weeks ago (just after PSN went down) and the Sony reps there stated that Sony was undertaking a massive effort to centralize all their servers across divisions into one group in a cost saving measure. Not sure how accurate that info is but it may be a contributing factor to these problems.