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None of this is new. Hitler based his Beer Hall Putsch on Mussolini's March to Rome and his Jewish Question on the Ottoman Empire's Armenian Question. Our Capit

None of this is new. Hitler based his Beer Hall Putsch on Mussolini's March to Rome and his Jewish Question on the Ottoman Empire's Armenian Question. Our Capitol insurrection riot has elements of both the Beer Hall Putsch and also the Reichstag Fire. Because fascism is mythic and traditionalist, its adherents will always seek to reuse and appropriate as many symbols and rituals as possible from ancient cultures. We need not just to pursue a legalist approach to justice and reconciliation, convicting and punishing terrorists and seditionists, but also expose the historical details of each insurrectionist action, so that we can build a society where people have the knowledge required to actively be antifascists.

BlueTemplar 6y ago
> so that we can build a society where people have the knowledge required to actively be antifascists. I know this comes from the right intentions, but, ironically, even here you have to be careful : proto-Antifa often allied with Nazis because the ruling Socialists were "the real fascists" according to the Stalinist party line. This even continued after proto-Antifa properly became Antifa, and likely helped Hitler to take power.
- myWindoonn 6y ago
  Let's apply some history to this yikes. The Communist Party of Germany (KPD) explicitly positioned themselves as anti-fascist in the 1920s; in 1932, they created the Antifascist Action [0]. At no point did they ever ally with the Nazi Party. You may be thinking of KPD's opposition to the Social Democratic Party (SPD), who came into power in 1918 by opposing the Communist revolution that year [1]. The social democrats opposed the communists in general, which led to the social democrats allying with the Nazis. This is an instance of the common phenomenon known as corporatist-fascist alliance, where corporations and capitalists (anti-communists) agree to work with fascists under the banner of free-market and free-speech principles. The alliance lasts either until the corporations grow tired of the fascist attempts to run the government into the ground, or the fascists gain enough power to destroy the corporations and seize control. In Weimar Germany, the latter happened; in 1933, after the Reichstag fire, the KPD was blamed for the fire and banned by decree [3], and then the SPD was banned for voting against the Enabling Act [2]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#Germany:_against_the_NSDAP_and_Hitlerism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#Germany:_against_... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany#Weimar_Republic_(1918%E2%80%931933) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Social_Democrat... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree

BlueTemplar 6y ago

> so that we can build a society where people have the knowledge required to actively be antifascists. I know this comes from the right intentions, but, ironically, even here you have to be careful : proto-Antifa often allied with Nazis because the ruling Socialists were "the real fascists" according to the Stalinist party line. This even continued after proto-Antifa properly became Antifa, and likely helped Hitler to take power.

myWindoonn 6y ago
Let's apply some history to this yikes. The Communist Party of Germany (KPD) explicitly positioned themselves as anti-fascist in the 1920s; in 1932, they created the Antifascist Action [0]. At no point did they ever ally with the Nazi Party. You may be thinking of KPD's opposition to the Social Democratic Party (SPD), who came into power in 1918 by opposing the Communist revolution that year [1]. The social democrats opposed the communists in general, which led to the social democrats allying with the Nazis. This is an instance of the common phenomenon known as corporatist-fascist alliance, where corporations and capitalists (anti-communists) agree to work with fascists under the banner of free-market and free-speech principles. The alliance lasts either until the corporations grow tired of the fascist attempts to run the government into the ground, or the fascists gain enough power to destroy the corporations and seize control. In Weimar Germany, the latter happened; in 1933, after the Reichstag fire, the KPD was blamed for the fire and banned by decree [3], and then the SPD was banned for voting against the Enabling Act [2]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#Germany:_against_the_NSDAP_and_Hitlerism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#Germany:_against_... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany#Weimar_Republic_(1918%E2%80%931933) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Social_Democrat... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree