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I feel many of the comments here are akin to saying "laying out in documents latex is hard, if you can't figure it out you're not ready to write" while the auth

I feel many of the comments here are akin to saying "laying out in documents latex is hard, if you can't figure it out you're not ready to write" while the author of the article is saying "I think writing documents could be easier." Google docs is proof it's possible. Sure everyone could learn about $path with a little research but there is SO MUCH to learn to get started with a "simple" react app... It's not necessary. Great tools hands a "low floor AND a high ceiling" meaning it's easy to get started and possible to go really really far. Clearly tools like replies show there's a desire for easier to set up environments. Have you never wished you could save your css tweaks directly from chrome dev tools? Why should the browser show you the page source when you could just curl it? Well... Let's try to make the unimportant things EASY so we can focus on the useful parts. Firefox could absolutely come with a standard node server and editor. And it could integrate with providers like GitHub or netlify. Gatekeeping getting started benefits nobody.

Jakob 6y ago
> there is SO MUCH to learn to get started with a "simple" react app... It's not necessary. One line of HTML: https://reactjs.org/docs/add-react-to-a-website.html#add-react-in-one-minute https://reactjs.org/docs/add-react-to-a-website.html#add-rea... > Have you never wished you could save your css tweaks directly from chrome dev tools? You can: https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/workspaces https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/work... > Firefox could absolutely come with a standard node server and editor A node server runs JavaScript files as do browser engines and the majority of node’s API exists in the browser in a similar form, as well as an editor. GitHub as well comes with an editor built-in, Netlify can be connected to GitHub by clicking one button. I agree that it’s good to simplify, but are these good examples for that?
Ajedi32 6y ago
> Have you never wished you could save your css tweaks directly from chrome dev tools? FWIW, you already can. Sources -> Overrides -> Select folder for overrides.

Jakob 6y ago

> there is SO MUCH to learn to get started with a "simple" react app... It's not necessary. One line of HTML: https://reactjs.org/docs/add-react-to-a-website.html#add-react-in-one-minute https://reactjs.org/docs/add-react-to-a-website.html#add-rea... > Have you never wished you could save your css tweaks directly from chrome dev tools? You can: https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/workspaces https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-devtools/work... > Firefox could absolutely come with a standard node server and editor A node server runs JavaScript files as do browser engines and the majority of node’s API exists in the browser in a similar form, as well as an editor. GitHub as well comes with an editor built-in, Netlify can be connected to GitHub by clicking one button. I agree that it’s good to simplify, but are these good examples for that?

Ajedi32 6y ago

> Have you never wished you could save your css tweaks directly from chrome dev tools? FWIW, you already can. Sources -> Overrides -> Select folder for overrides.