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I actually tried Vivaldi the other day for the first time in a while, and every so often the browser frame/chrome just completely freezes on macOS. Tabs will no

by krbzsq 6y ago

I actually tried Vivaldi the other day for the first time in a while, and every so often the browser frame/chrome just completely freezes on macOS. Tabs will not close, I couldn't open any new tabs etc. So it was a non-starter for me, hopefully this is an isolated issue. A bit of a shame because purely from a browser frame UI perspective I found it refreshing (however I do dislike the left/bottom bars). But one thing that irritated me is the right-click menu doesn't appear until you release the mouse rather than just when pressed. I do however acknowledge that's an entirely pedantic issue of personal preference.

ryankrage77 6y ago
> one thing that irritated me is the right-click menu doesn't appear until you release the mouse rather than just when pressed Firefox on Windows has the same behavior for me. Actually, Windows as a whole does this.
- krbzsq 6y ago
  I haven't used Windows in any real capacity since the early days of Windows 7. As I say this is definitely a personal preference thing that i've likely picked up in recent years. It's just mildly annoying to me that every other browser I use has it on mouse press rather than release
- TonyTrapp 6y ago
  This is how it should be - mouse actions trigger on releasing the button, not when pushing it. It allows the user to correct a mistake if they accidentally pressed the button, because they can move the mouse away from the clicked object and the action will not trigger. Many modern self-cooked UI systems seem to forget about this, it's just sad.
  - albertgoeswoof 6y ago
    Right click is different though, it shouldn't trigger an action in most cases, instead it should bring up a menu. The faster that comes up the better.
  - literallycancer 6y ago
    Seeing as we are in a thread on Vivaldi, a spiritual successor to Opera where mouse gestures were quite important for the overall experience, I'll go with "actions on mouse down are just fine".
    - TonyTrapp 6y ago
      But didn't Opera gestures always end on mouse-up? That makes it even more important that a context menu only opens on mouse-up, because otherwise you would potentially both open the menu and execute an action at the same time.
      - spijdar 6y ago
        This is exactly why some people (including me) prefer this idiom -- right click down to make a context menu appear, nudge the mouse over a few pixels to select e.g. the back button, mouse-up and there you go.
  - diroussel 6y ago
    On the mac context menus show up on mouse down. This is so you can click, then drag the the menu entry you want, then release the button to select the menu entry. Overall there is only one click, not two. Some people find it faster.
matthiaswh 6y ago
> the browser frame/chrome just completely freezes on macOS IME (on Linux), browsers freezing like this usually has to do with them having hardware acceleration enabled. I had this problem for the longest time with Chrome on a previous computer and since I have started disabling acceleration as the first step after installing a browser, the problem has gone away.

by krbzsq 6y ago

ryankrage77 6y ago

> one thing that irritated me is the right-click menu doesn't appear until you release the mouse rather than just when pressed Firefox on Windows has the same behavior for me. Actually, Windows as a whole does this.

krbzsq 6y ago
I haven't used Windows in any real capacity since the early days of Windows 7. As I say this is definitely a personal preference thing that i've likely picked up in recent years. It's just mildly annoying to me that every other browser I use has it on mouse press rather than release
TonyTrapp 6y ago
This is how it should be - mouse actions trigger on releasing the button, not when pushing it. It allows the user to correct a mistake if they accidentally pressed the button, because they can move the mouse away from the clicked object and the action will not trigger. Many modern self-cooked UI systems seem to forget about this, it's just sad.
- albertgoeswoof 6y ago
  Right click is different though, it shouldn't trigger an action in most cases, instead it should bring up a menu. The faster that comes up the better.
- literallycancer 6y ago
  Seeing as we are in a thread on Vivaldi, a spiritual successor to Opera where mouse gestures were quite important for the overall experience, I'll go with "actions on mouse down are just fine".
  - TonyTrapp 6y ago
    But didn't Opera gestures always end on mouse-up? That makes it even more important that a context menu only opens on mouse-up, because otherwise you would potentially both open the menu and execute an action at the same time.
    - spijdar 6y ago
      This is exactly why some people (including me) prefer this idiom -- right click down to make a context menu appear, nudge the mouse over a few pixels to select e.g. the back button, mouse-up and there you go.
- diroussel 6y ago
  On the mac context menus show up on mouse down. This is so you can click, then drag the the menu entry you want, then release the button to select the menu entry. Overall there is only one click, not two. Some people find it faster.

matthiaswh 6y ago

> the browser frame/chrome just completely freezes on macOS IME (on Linux), browsers freezing like this usually has to do with them having hardware acceleration enabled. I had this problem for the longest time with Chrome on a previous computer and since I have started disabling acceleration as the first step after installing a browser, the problem has gone away.