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Yeah, plus more ports. Touchbar was interesting, but not a killer feature. Sounds like the upgrade devs were looking for.

Hamuko 6y ago
The thing about Touch Bar is that you can't really integrate it as part of your workflow if you ever dock your computer and use an external keyboard.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  The touchbar is a whole bunch of tech they manufacture that seems to add little value. I expect it to cut cost and complexity in the most obvious way (literally just shave off 65 dollars from the laptop, regain some space if possible). Make the function keys super small and increase track pad size, or add more vents. Another rumor: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keyboards-with-displays-on-keys/amp/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keybo... ^ This might be the first iteration setting up for the end state of what will be the long term vision. Exciting, love seeing them grind out the little (but ambitious) improvements on what most companies would consider ‘perfect as is’ product. ——- For Apple at this point, I think, getting people to buy a 1100 MacBook + AirMax headphones is better than trying to get them buy not-so-obvious high end $1600 laptop.
  - jrockway 6y ago
    Always felt like a bit of marketing to me. Nobody would buy the laptops if they said "this thing is 10x slower than a random desktop cobbled together from parts purchased on Ebay, and gets hot enough to burn your lap when you use it as a laptop", so they kind of had no choice but to add some sort of whizbang wowie zowie add-on to stand out from PC laptops (that also used the same slow and inefficient CPUs). Now that their laptops are as fast as desktops and use very little power, they can sell them on computing power alone, meaning they don't need to inflate the BOM with gizmos and gadgets. One less thing to break. Good riddance, I say.
simonmales 6y ago
When the 2016 line came out, I told colleagues that I didn't see it as a 'professional' device. Thinking in particular for photographers who depended on the SD card slot. And hoped that Apple would release a 'classic' line one day.
yoz-y 6y ago
I’m very dubious about the ports rumor. What ports would that be? USB-A makes no sense. HDMI would, but would it fit? If they add Mini-hdmi then you’d need a dongle anyways. As it is I think the only good candidate is a SD card reader.
- dividedbyzero 6y ago
  Or a fifth and sixth USB-C...
  - yoz-y 6y ago
    That would be welcome. Although I must say that I very very much enjoy the 'one cable' lifestyle. All peripherals either hang off my screen when at home or off a single dongle when on the go (in the latter case I use a separate power cable)

Hamuko 6y ago

The thing about Touch Bar is that you can't really integrate it as part of your workflow if you ever dock your computer and use an external keyboard.

runawaybottle 6y ago
The touchbar is a whole bunch of tech they manufacture that seems to add little value. I expect it to cut cost and complexity in the most obvious way (literally just shave off 65 dollars from the laptop, regain some space if possible). Make the function keys super small and increase track pad size, or add more vents. Another rumor: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keyboards-with-displays-on-keys/amp/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keybo... ^ This might be the first iteration setting up for the end state of what will be the long term vision. Exciting, love seeing them grind out the little (but ambitious) improvements on what most companies would consider ‘perfect as is’ product. ——- For Apple at this point, I think, getting people to buy a 1100 MacBook + AirMax headphones is better than trying to get them buy not-so-obvious high end $1600 laptop.
- jrockway 6y ago
  Always felt like a bit of marketing to me. Nobody would buy the laptops if they said "this thing is 10x slower than a random desktop cobbled together from parts purchased on Ebay, and gets hot enough to burn your lap when you use it as a laptop", so they kind of had no choice but to add some sort of whizbang wowie zowie add-on to stand out from PC laptops (that also used the same slow and inefficient CPUs). Now that their laptops are as fast as desktops and use very little power, they can sell them on computing power alone, meaning they don't need to inflate the BOM with gizmos and gadgets. One less thing to break. Good riddance, I say.

simonmales 6y ago

When the 2016 line came out, I told colleagues that I didn't see it as a 'professional' device. Thinking in particular for photographers who depended on the SD card slot. And hoped that Apple would release a 'classic' line one day.

yoz-y 6y ago

I’m very dubious about the ports rumor. What ports would that be? USB-A makes no sense. HDMI would, but would it fit? If they add Mini-hdmi then you’d need a dongle anyways. As it is I think the only good candidate is a SD card reader.

dividedbyzero 6y ago
Or a fifth and sixth USB-C...
- yoz-y 6y ago
  That would be welcome. Although I must say that I very very much enjoy the 'one cable' lifestyle. All peripherals either hang off my screen when at home or off a single dongle when on the go (in the latter case I use a separate power cable)