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Moderators: Twitter is a terrible medium for long-format "articles". Can the main link be updated to this one, instead of the twitter-link? Also: With twitter

Moderators: Twitter is a terrible medium for long-format "articles". Can the main link be updated to this one, instead of the twitter-link? Also: With twitter starting banning random accounts, like sci-hub, seemingly without any consistent justifications, shouldn't we reconsider twitter as valid source for HN news-stories? Edit: seemingly different bug. Twitter is still all over terrible though.

stefan_ 6y ago
Well, particularly this breathless, content-free Twitter thread.
forgingahead 6y ago
Nitter.net is probably better if we did need to link to the Tweets to begin with: https://nitter.net/jonasLyk/status/1347900440000811010 https://nitter.net/jonasLyk/status/1347900440000811010
- SkitterDotOrg 6y ago
  Only problem with nitter.net is that 'this instance is over loaded' and so on. Nitter.net is running on some hetzner low instance and at least since beginning of 2021 nitter has said ' this instance is over loaded ' half the time you use nitter. So it goes
jabberwcky 6y ago
Counter case: Twitter forces authors to be succinct and to the point, and encourages them write in a style similar to the classical newspaper article structure where the most pertinent information is presented first There is a wide variety of research published only on Twitter, precisely because the publishing process is so lightweight for writers, and every single paragraph can form the leaves of a single giant conversation. A high quality Twitter thread cannot easily be replicated using alternative media
- kevincox 6y ago
  You raise a good point, but an email on a mailing list lets you reply to specific sentences/paragraphs. I guess the fairly unique value that twitter is adding here is going from the specific paragraph to see if there are any replies. Maybe webmention needs the ability to reference parts of a page, although I guess you could do that by linking to an anchor.
- alexvoda 6y ago
  Commenting per paragraph has also been done by Medium. I'm not saying that Medium is good, it has its own problems. But that feature can be replicated outside Twitter/Mastodon/etc.

stefan_ 6y ago

Well, particularly this breathless, content-free Twitter thread.

forgingahead 6y ago

Nitter.net is probably better if we did need to link to the Tweets to begin with: https://nitter.net/jonasLyk/status/1347900440000811010 https://nitter.net/jonasLyk/status/1347900440000811010

SkitterDotOrg 6y ago
Only problem with nitter.net is that 'this instance is over loaded' and so on. Nitter.net is running on some hetzner low instance and at least since beginning of 2021 nitter has said ' this instance is over loaded ' half the time you use nitter. So it goes

jabberwcky 6y ago

Counter case: Twitter forces authors to be succinct and to the point, and encourages them write in a style similar to the classical newspaper article structure where the most pertinent information is presented first There is a wide variety of research published only on Twitter, precisely because the publishing process is so lightweight for writers, and every single paragraph can form the leaves of a single giant conversation. A high quality Twitter thread cannot easily be replicated using alternative media

kevincox 6y ago
You raise a good point, but an email on a mailing list lets you reply to specific sentences/paragraphs. I guess the fairly unique value that twitter is adding here is going from the specific paragraph to see if there are any replies. Maybe webmention needs the ability to reference parts of a page, although I guess you could do that by linking to an anchor.
alexvoda 6y ago
Commenting per paragraph has also been done by Medium. I'm not saying that Medium is good, it has its own problems. But that feature can be replicated outside Twitter/Mastodon/etc.