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I work on these three projects to launch them soon: * https://onthesamepage.online/ https://onthesamepage.online/ - a minimalist private whiteboard with no reg

by zserge 6y ago

I work on these three projects to launch them soon: * https://onthesamepage.online/ https://onthesamepage.online/ - a minimalist private whiteboard with no registration; already used in German schools, but working on scaling it and prepare for a more general market. * https://lalatabs.com https://lalatabs.com - a tiny tabulature website for amateur musicians who can't read notes; need to add a few hundred songs and open it to the public. This won't be monitized, and will remain my little hobby. * https://nullitics.com/stats/ https://nullitics.com/stats/ - a zero-effort web analytics, easy to embed or self-host; much lighter and smaller than the alternatives, and as a result - much cheaper (I plan to charge 1€/month and that would still be profitable).

Donckele 6y ago
I like the blackboard web app and works nicely with touch devices. nullitics is down tho.
brtkdotse 6y ago
Regarding the pricing of the analytics, please reconsider. 1€ sends the signal “I’m the cheap option” and will attract cheap customers. In fact, everything below 19€/mo or 199€ sends that message.
- zserge 6y ago
  It has been a tough decision, and I still have doubts to be honest. However, I personally would never pay for analytics more than what I pay for domain+hosting. Also, the niche of mid-priced analytics is already rather full - SimpleAnalytics, Fathom, Plausible etc. But there is nothing for casual bloggers/developers, who a) value their users privacy enough to pay for it b) do not have a budget to pay 200€ annually. I think the similar problem exists in many areas and that's what stops people from moving away from Google and such - abscence of really cheap, simplified alternatives. For example, I wouldn't pay too much for the email, no matter how good it is. But I would pay 1€/month without a doubt. It's how we perceive the value of the product. No way the number of visitors of my humble blog is worth more than my cellphone data plan or my gym. But I realise that there are people who could say that analytics should cost more than a cup of coffee.
  - woile 6y ago
    I think this is me, I've been looking for some cheap solution to get basic data, without the need of a cookie. I would self-host any of the open source but I couldn't find any using sqlite. I was even thinking about building something myself. If may I ask, how long have you been working on these projects? do you have a full time job?
    - zserge 6y ago
      Thanks for the feedback! OnTheSamePage is the oldest one, I made it more than a year ago, but then got distracted with my relocation to Germany and all the related fun. Lalatabs was a very fun challenge - I made it during 24 days in December. Now it's time to turn it into a proper product from a quick PoC. Nullitics is what I started last week, but plan to launch in February. Somehow I manage to combine it all with a full-time job and occasional consulting. But I definitely need to slow down, I guess.
  - rorykoehler 6y ago
    The reason I would advise against it is it severely limits the possible profitable cost of customer acquisition which makes sense in turn strictly limiting how you can market it. If you can create all your own content and want to pursue a 100% organic strategy then this will be less of a concern.
jschulenklopper 6y ago
On the Same Page is brilliantly simple - thanks for sharing. One minor improvement: the auto-selection of items by hovering the cursor could be a bit more visible - the dark grey is quite subtle (and not too different from black). May I suggest using a lighter color (or a classy red / orange)?
jean-malo 6y ago
On the same page is really cool! In case you didn't already know: using the same whiteboard on a 27" screen vs a mobile screen hides a big portion of it on mobile. It seems like the whiteboard isn't scaled according to the screen size. Love the concept though! EDIT: Never mind looks like if you just dezoom it works, my bad!
codethief 6y ago
On the same page looks really nice! Is there an export functionality?
- zserge 6y ago
  Yes, but not in the menu yet (there is a big launch planned) - https://onthesamepage.online/example/png https://onthesamepage.online/example/png or https://onthesamepage.online/example/svg https://onthesamepage.online/example/svg (just append "/png" or "/svg" it to the board URL for now)
2rsf 6y ago
On the same page is cool! unfortunately I have Teams' Whiteboard so I don't need it
jschulenklopper 6y ago
Just discovered that the random token generation still needs work for https://onthesamepage.online/ https://onthesamepage.online/. You can easily guess or create (short) board ids, and see what was drawn there by others.
- zserge 6y ago
  That was deliberate. There are password-protected boards, password can be set from the menu. But the default page IDs were meant to be short, pronouncible and easy to type. Also you may enter your own page ID manually, just open https://onthesamepage.online/hello-hacker-news https://onthesamepage.online/hello-hacker-news
robbiejs 6y ago
Very nice projects, all three of them. Good job!

by zserge 6y ago

Donckele 6y ago

I like the blackboard web app and works nicely with touch devices. nullitics is down tho.

brtkdotse 6y ago

Regarding the pricing of the analytics, please reconsider. 1€ sends the signal “I’m the cheap option” and will attract cheap customers. In fact, everything below 19€/mo or 199€ sends that message.

zserge 6y ago
It has been a tough decision, and I still have doubts to be honest. However, I personally would never pay for analytics more than what I pay for domain+hosting. Also, the niche of mid-priced analytics is already rather full - SimpleAnalytics, Fathom, Plausible etc. But there is nothing for casual bloggers/developers, who a) value their users privacy enough to pay for it b) do not have a budget to pay 200€ annually. I think the similar problem exists in many areas and that's what stops people from moving away from Google and such - abscence of really cheap, simplified alternatives. For example, I wouldn't pay too much for the email, no matter how good it is. But I would pay 1€/month without a doubt. It's how we perceive the value of the product. No way the number of visitors of my humble blog is worth more than my cellphone data plan or my gym. But I realise that there are people who could say that analytics should cost more than a cup of coffee.
- woile 6y ago
  I think this is me, I've been looking for some cheap solution to get basic data, without the need of a cookie. I would self-host any of the open source but I couldn't find any using sqlite. I was even thinking about building something myself. If may I ask, how long have you been working on these projects? do you have a full time job?
  - zserge 6y ago
    Thanks for the feedback! OnTheSamePage is the oldest one, I made it more than a year ago, but then got distracted with my relocation to Germany and all the related fun. Lalatabs was a very fun challenge - I made it during 24 days in December. Now it's time to turn it into a proper product from a quick PoC. Nullitics is what I started last week, but plan to launch in February. Somehow I manage to combine it all with a full-time job and occasional consulting. But I definitely need to slow down, I guess.
- rorykoehler 6y ago
  The reason I would advise against it is it severely limits the possible profitable cost of customer acquisition which makes sense in turn strictly limiting how you can market it. If you can create all your own content and want to pursue a 100% organic strategy then this will be less of a concern.

jschulenklopper 6y ago

On the Same Page is brilliantly simple - thanks for sharing. One minor improvement: the auto-selection of items by hovering the cursor could be a bit more visible - the dark grey is quite subtle (and not too different from black). May I suggest using a lighter color (or a classy red / orange)?

jean-malo 6y ago

On the same page is really cool! In case you didn't already know: using the same whiteboard on a 27" screen vs a mobile screen hides a big portion of it on mobile. It seems like the whiteboard isn't scaled according to the screen size. Love the concept though! EDIT: Never mind looks like if you just dezoom it works, my bad!

codethief 6y ago

On the same page looks really nice! Is there an export functionality?

zserge 6y ago
Yes, but not in the menu yet (there is a big launch planned) - https://onthesamepage.online/example/png https://onthesamepage.online/example/png or https://onthesamepage.online/example/svg https://onthesamepage.online/example/svg (just append "/png" or "/svg" it to the board URL for now)

2rsf 6y ago

On the same page is cool! unfortunately I have Teams' Whiteboard so I don't need it

jschulenklopper 6y ago

Just discovered that the random token generation still needs work for https://onthesamepage.online/ https://onthesamepage.online/. You can easily guess or create (short) board ids, and see what was drawn there by others.

zserge 6y ago
That was deliberate. There are password-protected boards, password can be set from the menu. But the default page IDs were meant to be short, pronouncible and easy to type. Also you may enter your own page ID manually, just open https://onthesamepage.online/hello-hacker-news https://onthesamepage.online/hello-hacker-news

robbiejs 6y ago

Very nice projects, all three of them. Good job!