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Professional classical musician here. The real problem here is latency, and I'm good friends with the folks who are working the hardest on that issue for real

by Bud 6y ago

Professional classical musician here. The real problem here is latency, and I'm good friends with the folks who are working the hardest on that issue for real musicians wanting to collaborate with each other in real time. The most important work is being done with SoundJack. https://www.ianhowellcountertenor.com/soundjack-comprehensive-user-guide https://www.ianhowellcountertenor.com/soundjack-comprehensiv...

kgarten 6y ago
That's a great guide! Thanks for sharing. Much more what I would have expected from the parent link :)
silasdavis 6y ago
From the home page of sound jack site (https://www.ianhowellcountertenor.com/soundjack-real-time-online-music https://www.ianhowellcountertenor.com/soundjack-real-time-on...): > In practice, musicians ignore sound and watch a conductor when separated by such distances [of 100 feet]. It had never occurred to me that a conductor was a kind of clock at an approximately uniform distance from the performers.
- sam_dal 6y ago
  Conductor is the metronome.
- saberdancer 6y ago
  Uniform distance matters little for a conductor. Performers watch visual cues from him and speed of light is very fast (unlike sound). If you are 100 meters away, you have delay of about a third of a second if you use sound, but for light it will be a fraction of a millisecond.
  - croon 6y ago
    > Uniform distance matters little for a conductor. Performers watch visual cues from him and speed of light is very fast (unlike sound). Doesn't matter for the performers, but it matters for the conductor.
Kagerjay 6y ago
This, I've asked my musician friends too how teaching has been like through covid. All the platforms for recording they stated have at least a 0.5s delay, which makes playing together with a student very difficult. Usually the teacher sometimes has to prerecord a sequence instead and play a video, which makes teaching online not really convenient or fun for the teacher.

by Bud 6y ago

kgarten 6y ago

That's a great guide! Thanks for sharing. Much more what I would have expected from the parent link :)

silasdavis 6y ago

From the home page of sound jack site (https://www.ianhowellcountertenor.com/soundjack-real-time-online-music https://www.ianhowellcountertenor.com/soundjack-real-time-on...): > In practice, musicians ignore sound and watch a conductor when separated by such distances [of 100 feet]. It had never occurred to me that a conductor was a kind of clock at an approximately uniform distance from the performers.

sam_dal 6y ago
Conductor is the metronome.
saberdancer 6y ago
Uniform distance matters little for a conductor. Performers watch visual cues from him and speed of light is very fast (unlike sound). If you are 100 meters away, you have delay of about a third of a second if you use sound, but for light it will be a fraction of a millisecond.
- croon 6y ago
  > Uniform distance matters little for a conductor. Performers watch visual cues from him and speed of light is very fast (unlike sound). Doesn't matter for the performers, but it matters for the conductor.

Kagerjay 6y ago

This, I've asked my musician friends too how teaching has been like through covid. All the platforms for recording they stated have at least a 0.5s delay, which makes playing together with a student very difficult. Usually the teacher sometimes has to prerecord a sequence instead and play a video, which makes teaching online not really convenient or fun for the teacher.