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Sorry, but 20ms is more than double the amount I can tolerate when playing my instrument. Even just the difference between local loopback (instrument -> headph

Sorry, but 20ms is more than double the amount I can tolerate when playing my instrument. Even just the difference between local loopback (instrument -> headphones) vs instrument -> USB -> PC -> USB -> headphones, feels like playing with someone continually dragging the tempo down. I'm sure I could relearn and adapt to >10ms, but this is a far cry from a live experience of playing with others, and I am definitely not alone in my cohort (after trying several low latency remote meetup configurations).

Bud 6y ago
20ms is actually equivalent to playing/singing with someone around 20 feet away from you, on a stage. (Sound travels around 1.13 feet per millisecond.) Many of us in classical music are doing this all the time. So it's definitely doable. Especially if you have a conductor! Indeed, that's one of the reasons conductors are useful.
- pmiller2 6y ago
  If you don't have a conductor, always, always, always follow the soloist or concert master, which ever one you have.
- dash2 6y ago
  But the conductor is exactly what solves the problem, and which one can't use when one is working via Zoom because of latency.
gorkish 6y ago
Listening to yourself on a 20ms delay is a far different thing than listing to someone else on the same delay. The latter is what you experience in every day life all the time as sound travels about 1ms/foot. The former causes a negative feedback loop that will cause problems as you try in vain to effect an impossible correction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_Auditory_Feedback https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_Auditory_Feedback