I am sure there is, no doubt, overlap of people that associate with the Proud Boys and also associate with white supremacist's, but they (the Proud Boys) have b

I am sure there is, no doubt, overlap of people that associate with the Proud Boys and also associate with white supremacist's, but they (the Proud Boys) have been very clear that white nationalism / supremacy is not their charter and I do not think it is fair to paint them with that brush. That being said, I do agree with you on their view of masculinity and it is fair fodder to critique them on. That is their point, they stand for a certain set of values, they are very clear in what those values are and that is what they should be weighed in the balance for. For the record I am not defending them, rather I prefer to see peoples arguments weighed for what they are saying not for what other people paint on them. It's not fair and it is attempt to dilute their message. I think their message stands for itself and most people will reject it. Attempts to paint them as a racist organization when they are clearly not, only muddy the water and lend credence to their argument that they are being treated unfairly. It plays into their hands.