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What are you talking about? The story was worth reporting and it wasn’t until the election was over and verified that major news sources decided to push it to t

What are you talking about? The story was worth reporting and it wasn’t until the election was over and verified that major news sources decided to push it to the public. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-inv... Greenwald was right in calling the bias.

walrus01 6y ago
So either the "laptop" was given to Giuliani, or to the custody of the FBI, which is it? If it was given to the FBI, how did Giuliani come into possession of a large number of files supposedly retrieved from it, and share them with any journalist who would listen?
- DevKoala 6y ago
  The laptop was given to the FBI first and then someone from the FBI leaked it to Giuliani after the investigation was not moving. Once it became public a senate committee verified the validity of the evidence and the investigation made it to the public. Edit: I stand corrected. The repair shop owner shared an image of the disk with Giuliani, after first sharing it with the FBI.
  - mthoms 6y ago
    If I recall, it was the repair shop owner who shared an image of the hard drive with Giuliani's people. He thought the FBI wasn't doing enough with it. Edit: Source https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2020/10/14/meet-wilmington-repairman-who-reportedly-gave-biden-laptop-giuliani-associate/3655753001/ https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2020/10/14/meet-wi...
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- haroldp 6y ago
  Digital data is not hard to duplicate. Both can be true.
- fit2rule 6y ago
  The repair shop made disk images (part of the repair process), then gave the laptop to the FBI, and then shared the disk images.
ardy42 6y ago
> What are you talking about? The story was worth reporting and it wasn’t until the election was over and verified that major news sources decided to push it to the public. "Hunter Biden" is not one monolithic story. IIRC, Giuliani's story was all about that laptop (and trying to make it look like Joe Biden was involved), but that laptop may in fact have nothing to do with this tax probe. The existence of the latter doesn't necessarily validate the former. According to the story you posted: > Hints of the investigation emerged after President Donald Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, helped orchestrate news stories centered on a laptop purported to belong to Hunter Biden and said to include his business documents and other personal material. > The FBI took possession of the laptop in late 2019, according to a computer repairman in Delaware who showed reporters a copy of a subpoena. The subpoena is real, according to people briefed on the matter, but the FBI and prosecutors in Delaware have refused to confirm the existence of the investigation. > It's unclear whether the laptop's contents are relevant to the ongoing federal probe and whether investigators can even use them, given potential chain of custody requirements for evidence. Pay attention to that last paragraph.
- DevKoala 6y ago
  It was actually Hunter’s business partner Bobulinsky that went on Fox News to claim that he was working for Biden, and first met him during a scheduled time that has been redacted from Biden’s public calendar. No mainstream press with access to Joe Biden ever dared to ask Joe a question so that he could at least defend himself from the allegations.
netsharc 6y ago
From your link: > It's unclear whether the laptop's contents are relevant to the ongoing federal probe and whether investigators can even use them, given potential chain of custody requirements for evidence. It really doesn't pass the smell test that it was actually Hunter's laptop. Unless he's majorly stupid (I suppose that's a possibility...), why would he just choose a random computer repair store and leave his laptop(s) there. According to snopes.com, the owner didn't even see Hunter drop off the laptop: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-giuliani/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-g... If I were Hunter Biden, I would certainly have connections who I can call and ask about fixing a laptop which has secret information, and I would check that they're not a Trump supporter first. OTOH, if it really was Hunter Biden and he wasn't an idiot, then him giving the laptop to some stranger would mean he was sure there were no secrets on that laptop. (Then again, people don't understand tech and he might've thought deleting a file removes all traces of it). But Twitter and Facebook censoring the story isn't that neutral either, it's obvious who they wanted to win the election.
- DevKoala 6y ago
  Hunter has suffered through documented periods of crack addiction and it was during one of these episodes that he lost the laptop.
  - netsharc 6y ago
    Got a source for your assertion?
    - DevKoala 6y ago
      https://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-opens-about-addiction-struggles-divorce-new-yorker-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-opens-about-add...
      - netsharc 6y ago
        That link doesn't suggest he was battling addiction in April 2019. Got a source that tells us he was in one of this episodes in April 2019? Or are you just another Twitterer who throws "facts" into the dumpster fire? From Snopes: The Post reported that the saga started in April 2019, when a man identifying himself as Hunter Biden dropped the laptop off at a computer repair shop in the Biden family’s home state of Delaware. The laptop had been damaged by water.

walrus01 6y ago

So either the "laptop" was given to Giuliani, or to the custody of the FBI, which is it? If it was given to the FBI, how did Giuliani come into possession of a large number of files supposedly retrieved from it, and share them with any journalist who would listen?

DevKoala 6y ago
The laptop was given to the FBI first and then someone from the FBI leaked it to Giuliani after the investigation was not moving. Once it became public a senate committee verified the validity of the evidence and the investigation made it to the public. Edit: I stand corrected. The repair shop owner shared an image of the disk with Giuliani, after first sharing it with the FBI.
- mthoms 6y ago
  If I recall, it was the repair shop owner who shared an image of the hard drive with Giuliani's people. He thought the FBI wasn't doing enough with it. Edit: Source https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2020/10/14/meet-wilmington-repairman-who-reportedly-gave-biden-laptop-giuliani-associate/3655753001/ https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2020/10/14/meet-wi...
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haroldp 6y ago
Digital data is not hard to duplicate. Both can be true.
fit2rule 6y ago
The repair shop made disk images (part of the repair process), then gave the laptop to the FBI, and then shared the disk images.

ardy42 6y ago

> What are you talking about? The story was worth reporting and it wasn’t until the election was over and verified that major news sources decided to push it to the public. "Hunter Biden" is not one monolithic story. IIRC, Giuliani's story was all about that laptop (and trying to make it look like Joe Biden was involved), but that laptop may in fact have nothing to do with this tax probe. The existence of the latter doesn't necessarily validate the former. According to the story you posted: > Hints of the investigation emerged after President Donald Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, helped orchestrate news stories centered on a laptop purported to belong to Hunter Biden and said to include his business documents and other personal material. > The FBI took possession of the laptop in late 2019, according to a computer repairman in Delaware who showed reporters a copy of a subpoena. The subpoena is real, according to people briefed on the matter, but the FBI and prosecutors in Delaware have refused to confirm the existence of the investigation. > It's unclear whether the laptop's contents are relevant to the ongoing federal probe and whether investigators can even use them, given potential chain of custody requirements for evidence. Pay attention to that last paragraph.

DevKoala 6y ago
It was actually Hunter’s business partner Bobulinsky that went on Fox News to claim that he was working for Biden, and first met him during a scheduled time that has been redacted from Biden’s public calendar. No mainstream press with access to Joe Biden ever dared to ask Joe a question so that he could at least defend himself from the allegations.

netsharc 6y ago

From your link: > It's unclear whether the laptop's contents are relevant to the ongoing federal probe and whether investigators can even use them, given potential chain of custody requirements for evidence. It really doesn't pass the smell test that it was actually Hunter's laptop. Unless he's majorly stupid (I suppose that's a possibility...), why would he just choose a random computer repair store and leave his laptop(s) there. According to snopes.com, the owner didn't even see Hunter drop off the laptop: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-giuliani/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-g... If I were Hunter Biden, I would certainly have connections who I can call and ask about fixing a laptop which has secret information, and I would check that they're not a Trump supporter first. OTOH, if it really was Hunter Biden and he wasn't an idiot, then him giving the laptop to some stranger would mean he was sure there were no secrets on that laptop. (Then again, people don't understand tech and he might've thought deleting a file removes all traces of it). But Twitter and Facebook censoring the story isn't that neutral either, it's obvious who they wanted to win the election.

DevKoala 6y ago
Hunter has suffered through documented periods of crack addiction and it was during one of these episodes that he lost the laptop.
- netsharc 6y ago
  Got a source for your assertion?
  - DevKoala 6y ago
    https://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-opens-about-addiction-struggles-divorce-new-yorker-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-opens-about-add...
    - netsharc 6y ago
      That link doesn't suggest he was battling addiction in April 2019. Got a source that tells us he was in one of this episodes in April 2019? Or are you just another Twitterer who throws "facts" into the dumpster fire? From Snopes: The Post reported that the saga started in April 2019, when a man identifying himself as Hunter Biden dropped the laptop off at a computer repair shop in the Biden family’s home state of Delaware. The laptop had been damaged by water.