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They can still fly to come down here (but if they want to bring their car, they need to ship it down). It is packed with Canadians down south Florida.

deskamess 6y ago
Many have also jumped the queue to get free COVID shots (Tampa had a recent news report). One couple said they booked shots (4 weeks in the future) for their friends who are still in Canada (they will travel down shortly). Not sure how this is permitted although it makes scientific sense (anyone can transmit). The US is currently well ahead of Canada in per-capita COVID delivery.
- tenpies 6y ago
  > The US is currently well ahead of Canada in per-capita COVID delivery. The US is actually well ahead of most of the world, especially when you factor population and geography [1]. Sure, Israel has crushed everyone, but I think we can all agree there are exceptional circumstances which make this easier in Israel than in most other countries. Other success stories have been largely small, wealthy countries. It's a shame that the US media is so politicized as to not recognize Operation Warp Speed and the men and women - from researchers, to logisticians, to clinicians - who have made this possible. It has been an absolute miracle of human achievement and will hopefully be celebrated by historians, since the current generation refuses to do so. --- [1] https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
  - throwaway894345 6y ago
    This is pretty remarkable. I wonder why numbers in so many European countries are so much lower?
    - xeromal 6y ago
      I heard on NPR that the EU as a whole is ordering the vaccines so there's probably a bit of red tape holding things up.
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- throwaway894345 6y ago
  It's probably a rounding error after one considers that there are probably some Americans in Canada, but Canada has three vaccinations (not just 3 doses) per citizen while the US only has 1 and change. It would be a bummer if Canadians were consuming the more limited US vaccinations in meaningful numbers. I'm "picking on" Canada here because while America has a lot of medical tourism from South America, it tends to be out of necessity (worse medical infrastructure and so on) as opposed to impatience.
  - deskamess 6y ago
    But the vaccines are not getting into arms. In theory there are 3 vaccines and if others are approved and ramp up production (like Oxford) then the rate can increase. Right now, that is all theoretical and total coverage is scheduled for early September 2021. That does not include children (<16) since I am not sure there is a children's variant.
    - throwaway894345 6y ago
      Nevertheless, it's still vaccines that other countries can't use, and presumably other countries weren't expecting to provide Canadians' vaccinations when they were purchasing their vaccination stock.
notatoad 6y ago
>but if they want to bring their car they need to ship it down This is why the helicopter flights are so popular. They're literally just flying across the border with the shortest possible thing that could be called a flight, because air travel is allowed. And they're getting their car (or more often, RV) towed across the border, because cross-border towing is also allowed. The shortest possible flight means the shortest possible tow.

deskamess 6y ago

Many have also jumped the queue to get free COVID shots (Tampa had a recent news report). One couple said they booked shots (4 weeks in the future) for their friends who are still in Canada (they will travel down shortly). Not sure how this is permitted although it makes scientific sense (anyone can transmit). The US is currently well ahead of Canada in per-capita COVID delivery.

tenpies 6y ago
> The US is currently well ahead of Canada in per-capita COVID delivery. The US is actually well ahead of most of the world, especially when you factor population and geography [1]. Sure, Israel has crushed everyone, but I think we can all agree there are exceptional circumstances which make this easier in Israel than in most other countries. Other success stories have been largely small, wealthy countries. It's a shame that the US media is so politicized as to not recognize Operation Warp Speed and the men and women - from researchers, to logisticians, to clinicians - who have made this possible. It has been an absolute miracle of human achievement and will hopefully be celebrated by historians, since the current generation refuses to do so. --- [1] https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  This is pretty remarkable. I wonder why numbers in so many European countries are so much lower?
  - xeromal 6y ago
    I heard on NPR that the EU as a whole is ordering the vaccines so there's probably a bit of red tape holding things up.
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throwaway894345 6y ago
It's probably a rounding error after one considers that there are probably some Americans in Canada, but Canada has three vaccinations (not just 3 doses) per citizen while the US only has 1 and change. It would be a bummer if Canadians were consuming the more limited US vaccinations in meaningful numbers. I'm "picking on" Canada here because while America has a lot of medical tourism from South America, it tends to be out of necessity (worse medical infrastructure and so on) as opposed to impatience.
- deskamess 6y ago
  But the vaccines are not getting into arms. In theory there are 3 vaccines and if others are approved and ramp up production (like Oxford) then the rate can increase. Right now, that is all theoretical and total coverage is scheduled for early September 2021. That does not include children (<16) since I am not sure there is a children's variant.
  - throwaway894345 6y ago
    Nevertheless, it's still vaccines that other countries can't use, and presumably other countries weren't expecting to provide Canadians' vaccinations when they were purchasing their vaccination stock.

notatoad 6y ago

>but if they want to bring their car they need to ship it down This is why the helicopter flights are so popular. They're literally just flying across the border with the shortest possible thing that could be called a flight, because air travel is allowed. And they're getting their car (or more often, RV) towed across the border, because cross-border towing is also allowed. The shortest possible flight means the shortest possible tow.