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One today also suggested how we could give every home in America a sea view!

caturopath 6y ago
Would be interesting to see the map, I couldn't find it with a quick search. There is ~4ft of shoreline in the US per household, which gives me some notion of what the packing would look like.
- sammorrowdrums 6y ago
  Sorry, not an actual map. Just a back-of-the-envelope calculation. I'll try to find it.
- gberger 6y ago
  You can stack households on top of each other.
- leetcrew 6y ago
  if we cover all the shoreline with 10 story apartment buildings, it could be 40 ft per household! the larger problem would be having an acceptable amount of green space on the other side I think.
- bluGill 6y ago
  We can build up though. I might be worth 4 feet of shoreline, but my 40 foot sea view apartment is in a 50 floor apartment building, which leaves a lot of the shoreline unpopulated. That assumes everyone wants shore view. With young kids I prefer my house to be far away from places weak/non swimmers can drawn. I know many other reasons why someone would choose to not live somewhere far from the sea if they get a choice.
  - caturopath 6y ago
    Sorry, I wasn't trying to say "so it doesn't work". Obviously multi-story houses and houses not right on the shore have sea views.
  - jacquesm 6y ago
    > With young kids I prefer my house to be far away from places weak/non swimmers can drown. That rules out whole countries. And misses all the fun of having water nearby. The chances of that happening are so vanishingly small that it probably is a bad guide as to where you want your kids to grow up.
    - caturopath 6y ago
      ~1000 American kids die a year from drowning - the rate has went down since pool fences became common. I'm not sure it's quite "vanishingly rare", though of course it's not common.
      - CRConrad 6y ago
        Your mention of pool fences implies that moving away from the sea doesn't necessarily help keep your kids safe from drowning.
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    > my 40 foot sea view apartment is in a 50 floor apartment building So the buildings would double as a tsunami wall? Interesting, though kind of self-defeating.
ArnoVW 6y ago
A tempting proposition indeed (well for the next 20 years, less so after that). I suppose the problems arise when infrastructure has to be built for those linear communities (Dutch word of the day:'lintdorp', or ribbon-village). Because suddenly the average population density is awful and we have to drive a lot, build more schools and hospitals, etc. Not to mention the poor sods that have a 500 km commute to work the land so that the rest of us can eat >:-)
- spiralx 6y ago
  Somebody should tell these people: https://www.designboom.com/architecture/saudi-arabia-the-line-smart-cities-without-cars-01-12-2021/ https://www.designboom.com/architecture/saudi-arabia-the-lin... I'm not convinced it's not vapourstructure given how ridiculous it seems.
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    > A city with services driven by AI That's some tell-tale bullshit right here. That said, the video is very interesting. As well as branding - The Line. Would work very well as a setting in a sci-fi movie or a videogame.
biggc 6y ago
Does that include Alaska?
- sammorrowdrums 6y ago
  Why is that cheating? /s
flukus 6y ago
I wonder how efficient this would be for mass transit? One light rail line for short distances, heavy rail for longer ones and high speed rail for really long distance would be able to get you to every home in the country. Cities already grow a bit like this organically.

Would be interesting to see the map, I couldn't find it with a quick search. There is ~4ft of shoreline in the US per household, which gives me some notion of what the packing would look like.

sammorrowdrums 6y ago
Sorry, not an actual map. Just a back-of-the-envelope calculation. I'll try to find it.
gberger 6y ago
You can stack households on top of each other.
leetcrew 6y ago
if we cover all the shoreline with 10 story apartment buildings, it could be 40 ft per household! the larger problem would be having an acceptable amount of green space on the other side I think.
bluGill 6y ago
We can build up though. I might be worth 4 feet of shoreline, but my 40 foot sea view apartment is in a 50 floor apartment building, which leaves a lot of the shoreline unpopulated. That assumes everyone wants shore view. With young kids I prefer my house to be far away from places weak/non swimmers can drawn. I know many other reasons why someone would choose to not live somewhere far from the sea if they get a choice.
- caturopath 6y ago
  Sorry, I wasn't trying to say "so it doesn't work". Obviously multi-story houses and houses not right on the shore have sea views.
- jacquesm 6y ago
  > With young kids I prefer my house to be far away from places weak/non swimmers can drown. That rules out whole countries. And misses all the fun of having water nearby. The chances of that happening are so vanishingly small that it probably is a bad guide as to where you want your kids to grow up.
  - caturopath 6y ago
    ~1000 American kids die a year from drowning - the rate has went down since pool fences became common. I'm not sure it's quite "vanishingly rare", though of course it's not common.
    - CRConrad 6y ago
      Your mention of pool fences implies that moving away from the sea doesn't necessarily help keep your kids safe from drowning.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  > my 40 foot sea view apartment is in a 50 floor apartment building So the buildings would double as a tsunami wall? Interesting, though kind of self-defeating.

ArnoVW 6y ago

A tempting proposition indeed (well for the next 20 years, less so after that). I suppose the problems arise when infrastructure has to be built for those linear communities (Dutch word of the day:'lintdorp', or ribbon-village). Because suddenly the average population density is awful and we have to drive a lot, build more schools and hospitals, etc. Not to mention the poor sods that have a 500 km commute to work the land so that the rest of us can eat >:-)

spiralx 6y ago
Somebody should tell these people: https://www.designboom.com/architecture/saudi-arabia-the-line-smart-cities-without-cars-01-12-2021/ https://www.designboom.com/architecture/saudi-arabia-the-lin... I'm not convinced it's not vapourstructure given how ridiculous it seems.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  > A city with services driven by AI That's some tell-tale bullshit right here. That said, the video is very interesting. As well as branding - The Line. Would work very well as a setting in a sci-fi movie or a videogame.

biggc 6y ago

Does that include Alaska?

sammorrowdrums 6y ago
Why is that cheating? /s

flukus 6y ago

I wonder how efficient this would be for mass transit? One light rail line for short distances, heavy rail for longer ones and high speed rail for really long distance would be able to get you to every home in the country. Cities already grow a bit like this organically.