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Cherry-picking. You forgot this part: > Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer, and we want to

by tomp 6y ago

Cherry-picking. You forgot this part: > Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer, and we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people.

mattnewton 6y ago
I’m not cherry picking, I’m telling you where “the order” was to March on the capitol. He says “we” are marching on the capitol, multiple times; too many to list here even. I include the full transcript for context. If you wanted to cherry pick to show nonviolent intent, there is a much better passage than the one you picked (which I read as disavowing niceness, he is clearly implying that they are too nice and that’s why they are in this bind!) He explicitly says “peacefully” when describing the marching at one point: “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” However, if I tell someone that their country is under attack, that they have been too nice about it and have to show strength, and then say to march peacefully and patriotically, does the peaceful adjective whitewash the rest of the incendiary speech? Does it change that he falsely claimed electoral victory and called on his supporters to reclaim it in a show of “strength”? I would argue no, but it’s certain to be the key passage in his defense.
brindlejim 6y ago
Trump is pushing a catastrophic narrative that logically leads to violence. https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/only-the-church-can-truly-defeat https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/only-the-church-can-tr... > After all, when people believe our national destiny hangs in the balance, they often respond accordingly. Or, as I said in a December 4 newsletter warning about potential violence, “if you argue that the very existence of the country is at stake, don’t be surprised if people start to act as if the very existence of the country is at stake.”
- rrauenza 6y ago
  Kinda like yelling fire in a crowded theatre?

by tomp 6y ago

mattnewton 6y ago

I’m not cherry picking, I’m telling you where “the order” was to March on the capitol. He says “we” are marching on the capitol, multiple times; too many to list here even. I include the full transcript for context. If you wanted to cherry pick to show nonviolent intent, there is a much better passage than the one you picked (which I read as disavowing niceness, he is clearly implying that they are too nice and that’s why they are in this bind!) He explicitly says “peacefully” when describing the marching at one point: “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” However, if I tell someone that their country is under attack, that they have been too nice about it and have to show strength, and then say to march peacefully and patriotically, does the peaceful adjective whitewash the rest of the incendiary speech? Does it change that he falsely claimed electoral victory and called on his supporters to reclaim it in a show of “strength”? I would argue no, but it’s certain to be the key passage in his defense.

brindlejim 6y ago

Trump is pushing a catastrophic narrative that logically leads to violence. https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/only-the-church-can-truly-defeat https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/only-the-church-can-tr... > After all, when people believe our national destiny hangs in the balance, they often respond accordingly. Or, as I said in a December 4 newsletter warning about potential violence, “if you argue that the very existence of the country is at stake, don’t be surprised if people start to act as if the very existence of the country is at stake.”

rrauenza 6y ago
Kinda like yelling fire in a crowded theatre?