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In my small town all the locally-owned and operated coffee shops were forced to close due to government mandates, and most are now closed permanently, because t

by grecy 6y ago

In my small town all the locally-owned and operated coffee shops were forced to close due to government mandates, and most are now closed permanently, because they couldn't afford to pay rent without any customers. McDonald's and Starbucks? Still churning out coffee to people standing in long lines. It's infuriating, but what can you do?

medium_burrito 6y ago
We've normalized political violence on the left and right this year. One side trashes a bunch of cities, the other the capitol. That genie won't go back in the bottle for sure. Eventually the poors will get angry and united. So far our industry is helping keep them divided, but I'm not sure how long that will last.
- perrygeo 6y ago
  > One side trashes a bunch of cities, the other the capitol First, both sides are mostly made up of non-violent people dedicated to their cause. Both sides can rightfully claim that a minority of "bad eggs" amongst them caused the violence. But that's where the equivalency ends. We have to look at the cause itself. It's quite a stretch to say that a group protesting police brutality (in the face of actual police brutality) is at all equivalent to a group seeking to overthrow a legitimate government (with zero evidence to back their claims). It's not the same ballpark. It ain't even the same fucking sport.
  - shadowprofile77 6y ago
    Bullshit. A great number of those protesting on the left/progressive side during the fairly recent BLM marches were peaceful people legitimately angry about police violence, but more than enough others used the same starting point as a launch pad for mass riots, burnings, lootings and the promotion of extremist (but leftist extremist) political postures that were little different in their love of overthrowing legitimate institutions from anything recently done by the idiots at the Capitol. In terms of sheer scale and distribution, the former protests had much more violence to them than more recent right-oriented protests. Emotional attachment to a certain ideology is no excuse for claiming two obviously related things "ain't even the same fucking sport". They very much are, but from different teams.
thehappypm 6y ago
This doesn't really make sense. If there's a long line at Starbucks for takeout, why are you saying there aren't any customers?
- grecy 6y ago
  The locally owned and run stores were forced to close by a government mandate, while the "big boys" where deemed essential and were allowed to stay open. The joys of being rich, you get to influence the government!
  - thehappypm 6y ago
    I don’t think this ever applied to a Starbucks or McDonalds compared to a local coffee or burger place. 100% for supermarkets and Walmarts, but I can’t see how (in any jurisdiction) McDonalds or Starbucks would be allowed to do take out but local restaurants would not.

by grecy 6y ago

medium_burrito 6y ago

We've normalized political violence on the left and right this year. One side trashes a bunch of cities, the other the capitol. That genie won't go back in the bottle for sure. Eventually the poors will get angry and united. So far our industry is helping keep them divided, but I'm not sure how long that will last.

perrygeo 6y ago
> One side trashes a bunch of cities, the other the capitol First, both sides are mostly made up of non-violent people dedicated to their cause. Both sides can rightfully claim that a minority of "bad eggs" amongst them caused the violence. But that's where the equivalency ends. We have to look at the cause itself. It's quite a stretch to say that a group protesting police brutality (in the face of actual police brutality) is at all equivalent to a group seeking to overthrow a legitimate government (with zero evidence to back their claims). It's not the same ballpark. It ain't even the same fucking sport.
- shadowprofile77 6y ago
  Bullshit. A great number of those protesting on the left/progressive side during the fairly recent BLM marches were peaceful people legitimately angry about police violence, but more than enough others used the same starting point as a launch pad for mass riots, burnings, lootings and the promotion of extremist (but leftist extremist) political postures that were little different in their love of overthrowing legitimate institutions from anything recently done by the idiots at the Capitol. In terms of sheer scale and distribution, the former protests had much more violence to them than more recent right-oriented protests. Emotional attachment to a certain ideology is no excuse for claiming two obviously related things "ain't even the same fucking sport". They very much are, but from different teams.

thehappypm 6y ago

This doesn't really make sense. If there's a long line at Starbucks for takeout, why are you saying there aren't any customers?

grecy 6y ago
The locally owned and run stores were forced to close by a government mandate, while the "big boys" where deemed essential and were allowed to stay open. The joys of being rich, you get to influence the government!
- thehappypm 6y ago
  I don’t think this ever applied to a Starbucks or McDonalds compared to a local coffee or burger place. 100% for supermarkets and Walmarts, but I can’t see how (in any jurisdiction) McDonalds or Starbucks would be allowed to do take out but local restaurants would not.