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by iuguy 6y ago

ori_b 6y ago
Yes, the person who committed it was a high school teenager at the time. Maturity and good taste isn't generally associated with high schoolers. It was tasteless. And it was reverted. My family is full of holocaust survivors. My grandmother passed through Auschwitz. 10 of her 12 siblings did not. I am fairly heavily involved in 9front. I have never had any issues with anyone in that project -- certainly none to do with antisemitism.
- iuguy 6y ago
  If you feel you have to tell me that your family is full of holocaust survivors before you tell me you're involved in a software distro, something is very wrong. This is software not biker gangs. I'm not judging you. I hope you understand that. One or two other people maybe, but not you. I've not called anyone a Nazi. I didn't commit Mein Kampf twice. I didn't put an Auschwitz joke in the manual. Neither did you. It was this[1] that convinced me to spend time with Plan 9. I've spoken to some really nice 9Front users and contributors. I've read and watched cool things by people like mycroft, Sigrid and yourself. Then at the other end of the scale there's this: ahem http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/log?rev=rails.jpg http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/log?rev=rails.jpg And for shits and giggles, this: ahem http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/rev/2c6ef22d5a74 http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/rev/2c6ef22d5a74 For every person you explain to, there are many more who just call you all a bunch of Nazis. People have slid into my DMs and just outright openly called everyone in 9Front nazis for over a week now. The idea is ridiculous yet it persists. That's obviously not the association you want for yourself, but it's one you're aware of or you wouldn't be here. It's happening right now here: https://mastodon.social/@Ludonaut/105555232277945673 https://mastodon.social/@Ludonaut/105555232277945673 - that's just one place, there are plenty others. My Signal's full of it, Telegram too. Memes, some pretty personal, the lot. You can't whack-a-mole that association. All you can do is choose to change it or choose to own it. EDIT: Seems I can't reply to Ori directly so here it is: No I'm not insinuating you're a Nazi sympathizer. I wouldn't. The whole point of my reply is that you are not and I know you are not but lots of others won't draw that conclusion and you won't be able to correct them all. If I thought you were involved in that sort of shit I'd come straight out with it. Ok Ori, you believe what you want to believe. I've been 100% up-front about everything so far. If you're relying on insinuations then you're reading into stuff that just isn't there. You're the third 9Front guy to come at me, and I'm done trying to be polite about it so I'll withdraw. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m3GuoaxRNM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m3GuoaxRNM
  - ori_b 6y ago
    > If you feel you have to tell me that your family is full of holocaust survivors before you tell me you're involved in a software distro, something is very wrong. Let me put it another way: You are insinuating that I'm a nazi sympathizer. That is indeed very wrong, and the statement above is directly related to the insinuation I was responding to. Please state your insinuations out loud. Then get fucked. Edit: > EDIT: Seems I can't reply to Ori directly so here it is: No I'm not insinuating you're a Nazi sympathizer. I wouldn't. If I thought you were I'd come straight out with it. Great. You're implying something you don't even claim to believe. Take some responsibility for your words. If you think the accusations are "ridiculous", why are you doing your best to amplify them? You are being incredibly slimy.
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ahem http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/log?rev=mein+kampf http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/log?rev=mein+kampf

by iuguy 6y ago

ahem http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/log?rev=mein+kampf http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/log?rev=mein+kampf

Yes, the person who committed it was a high school teenager at the time. Maturity and good taste isn't generally associated with high schoolers. It was tasteless. And it was reverted. My family is full of holocaust survivors. My grandmother passed through Auschwitz. 10 of her 12 siblings did not. I am fairly heavily involved in 9front. I have never had any issues with anyone in that project -- certainly none to do with antisemitism.

iuguy 6y ago
If you feel you have to tell me that your family is full of holocaust survivors before you tell me you're involved in a software distro, something is very wrong. This is software not biker gangs. I'm not judging you. I hope you understand that. One or two other people maybe, but not you. I've not called anyone a Nazi. I didn't commit Mein Kampf twice. I didn't put an Auschwitz joke in the manual. Neither did you. It was this[1] that convinced me to spend time with Plan 9. I've spoken to some really nice 9Front users and contributors. I've read and watched cool things by people like mycroft, Sigrid and yourself. Then at the other end of the scale there's this: ahem http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/log?rev=rails.jpg http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/log?rev=rails.jpg And for shits and giggles, this: ahem http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/rev/2c6ef22d5a74 http://code.9front.org/hg/fqa.9front.org/rev/2c6ef22d5a74 For every person you explain to, there are many more who just call you all a bunch of Nazis. People have slid into my DMs and just outright openly called everyone in 9Front nazis for over a week now. The idea is ridiculous yet it persists. That's obviously not the association you want for yourself, but it's one you're aware of or you wouldn't be here. It's happening right now here: https://mastodon.social/@Ludonaut/105555232277945673 https://mastodon.social/@Ludonaut/105555232277945673 - that's just one place, there are plenty others. My Signal's full of it, Telegram too. Memes, some pretty personal, the lot. You can't whack-a-mole that association. All you can do is choose to change it or choose to own it. EDIT: Seems I can't reply to Ori directly so here it is: No I'm not insinuating you're a Nazi sympathizer. I wouldn't. The whole point of my reply is that you are not and I know you are not but lots of others won't draw that conclusion and you won't be able to correct them all. If I thought you were involved in that sort of shit I'd come straight out with it. Ok Ori, you believe what you want to believe. I've been 100% up-front about everything so far. If you're relying on insinuations then you're reading into stuff that just isn't there. You're the third 9Front guy to come at me, and I'm done trying to be polite about it so I'll withdraw. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m3GuoaxRNM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m3GuoaxRNM
- ori_b 6y ago
  > If you feel you have to tell me that your family is full of holocaust survivors before you tell me you're involved in a software distro, something is very wrong. Let me put it another way: You are insinuating that I'm a nazi sympathizer. That is indeed very wrong, and the statement above is directly related to the insinuation I was responding to. Please state your insinuations out loud. Then get fucked. Edit: > EDIT: Seems I can't reply to Ori directly so here it is: No I'm not insinuating you're a Nazi sympathizer. I wouldn't. If I thought you were I'd come straight out with it. Great. You're implying something you don't even claim to believe. Take some responsibility for your words. If you think the accusations are "ridiculous", why are you doing your best to amplify them? You are being incredibly slimy.
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