3 ms·

Your sources need work. The salient point (defensive gun use) is not substantiated by your linked report as it specifically mentions the CDC may not collect th

Your sources need work. The salient point (defensive gun use) is not substantiated by your linked report as it specifically mentions the CDC may not collect this data: > In addition to the restrictions on certain kinds of data collection, > congressional action in 1996 effectively halted all firearm-related injury research > at the CDC by prohibiting the use of federal funding “to advo-cate > or promote gun control.”18 In 2011, Congress enacted similar re-strictions > affecting the entire U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The > net result was an overall reduction in firearm violence research > (Kellermann and Rivara, 2013). As a result, the past 20 years have > witnessed diminished progress in understanding the causes and ef-fects > of firearm violence. Additionally, "homicide" is not a sufficient tally of gun deaths. There are also suicides and unintended discharges. Regardless, the original point is that guns are primarily designed to kill things. It would not be "effective" defense if that were not the case. 2A advocates do not defend their gun rights purely so they can enjoy target shooting.

marcusverus 6y ago
> Your sources need work. The salient point (defensive gun use) is not substantiated by your linked report as it specifically mentions the CDC may not collect this data This is an odd claim, given that the "salient point" seems to be a verbatim quotation of the linked report, which contains further citations... > Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997).

marcusverus 6y ago

> Your sources need work. The salient point (defensive gun use) is not substantiated by your linked report as it specifically mentions the CDC may not collect this data This is an odd claim, given that the "salient point" seems to be a verbatim quotation of the linked report, which contains further citations... > Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997).