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It is indirect. It isn't a solicitation for the job specified but a cry that it should happen. I do see that as becoming a direct threat if the person giving i
by sosuke 6y ago
It is indirect. It isn't a solicitation for the job specified but a cry that it should happen.
I do see that as becoming a direct threat if the person giving it has a known cadre of people willing act on their words. Such as a military or cult leader might.
- traveler01 6y agoSo it is ok because it's about Trump?
- happytoexplain 6y agoThe parent said it would be worse if the author were somebody with power or fame - not if the target wasn't. Edit: Just clarifying, not agreeing. While I agree that there is subjectivity around how indirect a threat is, who the author and their audience is, etc, I do think in this case this tweet should be removed.
- aksss 6y agoThere is this kernel of my soul that dislikes how things are worse when they happen to politicians than when they happen to fellow citizens, or to political buildings rather than family-owned buildings. One part of me likes to believe it’s a reaction to the affront to something representative which matters to a broad collection of people, but that nagging kernel also reminds me that it conveniently prioritizes the interests of those with power over the individuals, even to the point of being dismissive of the daily crimes suffered by a great many individuals.
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- sosuke 6y agoI don't think it is okay to make comments like that about anyone. But I am talking about a threat and then wishing someone ill being different in nature. One carries the idea of direct action by the speaker.
- mattnewton 6y agoIt’s a different problem when someone with authority does this. “Someone #AssasinateTrump” from a random person without authority (implied or otherwise) to actually order an assassination runs afoul of their community guidelines, Trump saying we should take the capitol is likely a crime because of his authority. That being said, these Twitter guidelines are an absolute mess because they rely on human moderation and human attention. I don’t think they deserve their status as a defacto public square.
- jtbayly 6y agoSo the explicit call for violence, which you have no idea who is reading it, what their mental state is, what action they may take, etc is not a problem, but a call to protest is a threat that needs to be dealt with ASAP.
- sosuke 6y agoI think a threat of violence is split between the other and the self in the perceived action. I, Let's, We'll are all inclusive of the self and thus would be direct threats. Someone, anyone, y'all are indirect, unless as I said the person giving the statement was of sufficient influence as to expect it carried out.