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Is Parkinson's such a common disease that the average person would need to take action to specifically lower risk for it specifically? If the output of the stu

Is Parkinson's such a common disease that the average person would need to take action to specifically lower risk for it specifically? If the output of the study was "Vitamin C and Vitamin E lower risk of Parkinson's and have no negative effects", that would be useful. But that is not the case, supplementation of various vitamins and minerals, specifically over supplementation have been shown to have risks. For example, Vitamin C is linked to increase iron absorption, and higher iron levels have been correlated with high risk of Alzheimer's. I'd much rather have Parkinson's than Alzheimer's.

r00fus 6y ago
I'd say this study may be useful for those who have a family history of Parkinsons or find out via genetic testing that have genetic markers that predispose them to it. I wonder for those suffering from early stages of Parkinsons whether boosting C&E would impact onset.
hinkley 6y ago
Precautionary Principle. Among creative workers, which there are a lot of here, MS, Parkinson's, and Alzheimer's are all seen as living hells you would not wish on your worst enemy. Essentially, the consequences are infinity, so if probability > 0, prevention is justified. (And in some circles, assisted suicide).
- deeviant 6y ago
  You didn't seem to respond regarding the possible negative consequences of supplementing with C, which may increase the chances of developing Alzheimer's. Which makes it look like my point went right past you.
  - hinkley 6y ago
    Fair. Avoiding things and avoiding running toward things are different risk classes for humans, and we aren't always rational in these cases (see also: Thinking Fast and Slow). I've known a couple of people with anemia, and many of those conversations have lead to discussion of its opposite - hemochromatosis. The iron and vitamin C link is very temporal. If you're trying to increase your iron absorption from food, adding it to the dish is much more effective than taking a vitamin C pill in the morning. If you're trying to lower it, you try to avoid ever getting vitamin C with food. A routine blood test can show elevated iron levels (mine came back elevated but not dangerous, which is why I stopped using cast iron for cooking).
    - deeviant 6y ago
      Increasing or lowering iron absorption is easy. Increasing iron is also easy. Lowering iron however, is not easy. Preston Estep, in his book, "The Mindspan Diet", made a convincing argument, in my opinion, for higher iron levels being extremely harmful in the long term, to the point where he considers high iron to be perhaps the largest Alzheimer/dementia risk, even with levels of iron that are considering "normal".

r00fus 6y ago

I'd say this study may be useful for those who have a family history of Parkinsons or find out via genetic testing that have genetic markers that predispose them to it. I wonder for those suffering from early stages of Parkinsons whether boosting C&E would impact onset.

hinkley 6y ago

Precautionary Principle. Among creative workers, which there are a lot of here, MS, Parkinson's, and Alzheimer's are all seen as living hells you would not wish on your worst enemy. Essentially, the consequences are infinity, so if probability > 0, prevention is justified. (And in some circles, assisted suicide).

deeviant 6y ago
You didn't seem to respond regarding the possible negative consequences of supplementing with C, which may increase the chances of developing Alzheimer's. Which makes it look like my point went right past you.
- hinkley 6y ago
  Fair. Avoiding things and avoiding running toward things are different risk classes for humans, and we aren't always rational in these cases (see also: Thinking Fast and Slow). I've known a couple of people with anemia, and many of those conversations have lead to discussion of its opposite - hemochromatosis. The iron and vitamin C link is very temporal. If you're trying to increase your iron absorption from food, adding it to the dish is much more effective than taking a vitamin C pill in the morning. If you're trying to lower it, you try to avoid ever getting vitamin C with food. A routine blood test can show elevated iron levels (mine came back elevated but not dangerous, which is why I stopped using cast iron for cooking).
  - deeviant 6y ago
    Increasing or lowering iron absorption is easy. Increasing iron is also easy. Lowering iron however, is not easy. Preston Estep, in his book, "The Mindspan Diet", made a convincing argument, in my opinion, for higher iron levels being extremely harmful in the long term, to the point where he considers high iron to be perhaps the largest Alzheimer/dementia risk, even with levels of iron that are considering "normal".