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> At no time did I see even a single post advocating violent overthrow of the government, white supremacy, etc. Apparently, neither did any of those planning th

by dastbe 6y ago

> At no time did I see even a single post advocating violent overthrow of the government, white supremacy, etc. Apparently, neither did any of those planning the Capital attack, since they were not Parler members. how do you reconcile this opinion with the reporting that uses gps data from the parler data dump to place parler users at the protest and in the capitol building? https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-capitol-building-1846042905 https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-ca...

pjkundert 6y ago
Parler users wandering around the Capital sucking on their soda pops are different than those wanted by the FBI for breaching the building...
- dastbe 6y ago
  1. Do you earnestly believe the people around the Capitol were "sucking on their soda pops" during a large protest? As someone whose been around several protests in Seattle, there's an overwhelmingly small number of people that close who are not directly involved. 2. The gps data shows them being inside the Capitol building.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Parler users wandering around the Capital sucking on their soda pops are different than those wanted by the FBI for breaching the building… No, assuming that they exist at all (which seems unlikely given the nature of the incident: peaceful people interested in just “wandering around…sucking on their soda pops” don’t tend to casually hang around riots involving violent clashes with the police, use of chemical irritants on both sides, gunfire, etc.) they aren’t, except to the extent that some of the former may not have been identified yet and moved into the latter category. Anyone who illegally entered the building and is identified is being charged.
sojournerc 6y ago
Ok - those were likely Facebook users also, maybe on Twitter, maybe they used Gmail. Guilt by association is something we should avoid. It looks an awful lot like a witch hunt.
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
  Once again, none of those other services listed exist for the rhetoric leading to the 6th.
  - sojournerc 6y ago
    From my perspective, it's pretty disingenuous to argue that was the sole purpose of Parler. Anecdata from HNers in this thread suggests otherwise, and unless you can show evidence that all 4 million users conspired to storm the Capitol building, there's not much of a leg to stand on there.
analyte123 6y ago
According to the article "at least several" out of 2+ million active users were in the Capitol. If this is the standard to upload, we would have to ban every social media app ever made.
- dastbe 6y ago
  I'm not trying to argue the Parler ban or at what percentage does it transition from people caused this to the platform caused this. What I am arguing against is the out-and-out misinformation campaign that zero people who used parler were involved in the capitol insurrection. Everyone has access to the receipts.

by dastbe 6y ago

pjkundert 6y ago

Parler users wandering around the Capital sucking on their soda pops are different than those wanted by the FBI for breaching the building...

dastbe 6y ago
1. Do you earnestly believe the people around the Capitol were "sucking on their soda pops" during a large protest? As someone whose been around several protests in Seattle, there's an overwhelmingly small number of people that close who are not directly involved. 2. The gps data shows them being inside the Capitol building.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> Parler users wandering around the Capital sucking on their soda pops are different than those wanted by the FBI for breaching the building… No, assuming that they exist at all (which seems unlikely given the nature of the incident: peaceful people interested in just “wandering around…sucking on their soda pops” don’t tend to casually hang around riots involving violent clashes with the police, use of chemical irritants on both sides, gunfire, etc.) they aren’t, except to the extent that some of the former may not have been identified yet and moved into the latter category. Anyone who illegally entered the building and is identified is being charged.

sojournerc 6y ago

Ok - those were likely Facebook users also, maybe on Twitter, maybe they used Gmail. Guilt by association is something we should avoid. It looks an awful lot like a witch hunt.

x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
Once again, none of those other services listed exist for the rhetoric leading to the 6th.
- sojournerc 6y ago
  From my perspective, it's pretty disingenuous to argue that was the sole purpose of Parler. Anecdata from HNers in this thread suggests otherwise, and unless you can show evidence that all 4 million users conspired to storm the Capitol building, there's not much of a leg to stand on there.

analyte123 6y ago

According to the article "at least several" out of 2+ million active users were in the Capitol. If this is the standard to upload, we would have to ban every social media app ever made.

dastbe 6y ago
I'm not trying to argue the Parler ban or at what percentage does it transition from people caused this to the platform caused this. What I am arguing against is the out-and-out misinformation campaign that zero people who used parler were involved in the capitol insurrection. Everyone has access to the receipts.