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This is very US-centric view. Most countries in the world don't have chip fabrication facilities in their country and they do just fine. Sure, US is currently a

This is very US-centric view. Most countries in the world don't have chip fabrication facilities in their country and they do just fine. Sure, US is currently a superpower whose influence is felt across the world so having chip manufacturing locally is very important, but in a scenario where US would lose some influence that would no longer be an issue, same as it is not an issue for Canada, Germany or Russia.

LunaSea 6y ago
> Most countries in the world don't have chip fabrication facilities in their country and they do just fine. I don't think that Huawei is doing is doing just fine. You have to think about scenarios where countries are opposed to the US for one reason or another. The Patriot Act being renewed for 6 months and thus putting Cuba in the embargoed countries even more than they already were should be a good second example.
dghlsakjg 6y ago
Canada and Germany aren't bothered about it because they have allies that ARE worried about it. Taiwan isn't under Chinese control, but if there was an escalating situation, you would assume that it would fall under Chinese control VERY quickly. Up here in Canada, there is no need for fabs as long as the US has them. Canada has no real choice but friendly relations with the US (geography forces this), the upside is that many of the strategic resources belonging to the US are available to Canada.
morsch 6y ago
The EU is worried about it to the tune of 145bn EUR... https://www.eetimes.eu/eu-signs-e145bn-declaration-to-develop-next-gen-processors-and-2nm-technology/ https://www.eetimes.eu/eu-signs-e145bn-declaration-to-develo...
- kllrnohj 6y ago
  So is China: https://www.tomshardware.com/features/zhaoxin-kx-u6780a-x86-cpu-tested https://www.tomshardware.com/features/zhaoxin-kx-u6780a-x86-... > As such, China began an initiative to build its own processors back in the early 80's that eventually evolved into the "Made in China 2025" campaign that has the goal of producing 70% of the chips used in China by 2025.
  - 9L91EEhoEywJ 6y ago
    That should be a pretty easy goal for them to hit, right? Just buy the chips that are manufactured at TSMC.
    - kllrnohj 6y ago
      TSMC doesn't design chips, which is the stated goal. China wants China-designed chips, not just "China" manufactured chips. (ignoring that TSMC is Taiwanese and not currently under PRC rule but is instead de-facto independent and mostly internationally recognized as being independent...)

LunaSea 6y ago

> Most countries in the world don't have chip fabrication facilities in their country and they do just fine. I don't think that Huawei is doing is doing just fine. You have to think about scenarios where countries are opposed to the US for one reason or another. The Patriot Act being renewed for 6 months and thus putting Cuba in the embargoed countries even more than they already were should be a good second example.

dghlsakjg 6y ago

Canada and Germany aren't bothered about it because they have allies that ARE worried about it. Taiwan isn't under Chinese control, but if there was an escalating situation, you would assume that it would fall under Chinese control VERY quickly. Up here in Canada, there is no need for fabs as long as the US has them. Canada has no real choice but friendly relations with the US (geography forces this), the upside is that many of the strategic resources belonging to the US are available to Canada.

morsch 6y ago

The EU is worried about it to the tune of 145bn EUR... https://www.eetimes.eu/eu-signs-e145bn-declaration-to-develop-next-gen-processors-and-2nm-technology/ https://www.eetimes.eu/eu-signs-e145bn-declaration-to-develo...

kllrnohj 6y ago
So is China: https://www.tomshardware.com/features/zhaoxin-kx-u6780a-x86-cpu-tested https://www.tomshardware.com/features/zhaoxin-kx-u6780a-x86-... > As such, China began an initiative to build its own processors back in the early 80's that eventually evolved into the "Made in China 2025" campaign that has the goal of producing 70% of the chips used in China by 2025.
- 9L91EEhoEywJ 6y ago
  That should be a pretty easy goal for them to hit, right? Just buy the chips that are manufactured at TSMC.
  - kllrnohj 6y ago
    TSMC doesn't design chips, which is the stated goal. China wants China-designed chips, not just "China" manufactured chips. (ignoring that TSMC is Taiwanese and not currently under PRC rule but is instead de-facto independent and mostly internationally recognized as being independent...)