> That is a very bizarre description of ML engineers No no no, that's a description of regular programmers. There's so much more arcana in the field of progra

> That is a very bizarre description of ML engineers No no no, that's a description of regular programmers. There's so much more arcana in the field of programming and computer science as a whole, especially with the piss-poor job we've done deprecating bad old interfaces etc. (the monster that is modern Unix grows without bound). And of course there are the various langauge and other fads. All that is a nightmare for a traditional business person, whether they know it or not, and the regular programmers probably feel like an extortion racket of sorts.