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Terrible. The storming of the capitol was probably the most frightening single event in American history in recent times. I just got off the phone with my fri

Terrible. The storming of the capitol was probably the most frightening single event in American history in recent times. I just got off the phone with my friend who lives in China. He was in tears. He didn't understand how someone could have such disregard for the value of human life and democracy to walk inside the capitol building in DC. It's completely against the law. For those in the dark, the event caused serious international ripples. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the_2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the...

douglaswlance 6y ago
Were you paid to post this?
gvhst 6y ago
> disregard for the value of human life While the deaths were sad, I don't think that's the main reason people are concerned.
- hoka-one-one 6y ago
  Edited to include democracy, thank you for correcting me.
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docdeek 6y ago
>> The storming of the capitol was probably the most frightening single event in American history in recent times. This is surely hyperbole or else recent times doesn’t include much of the 21st century.
- gadders 6y ago
  Or even much of the past year in Portland, or even the violent BLM riots in Washington DC.
ppf 6y ago
I suspect living through the collapse of Libya as an innocent resident of that country, was probably one of the most frightening events in recent American history.
- snikeris 6y ago
  https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/19/barack-obama-libya-airstrikes-1224550 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/19/barack-obama-libya...
zests 6y ago
Explain it to an engineer. A few people in a mostly peaceful protest got out of hand and this is the most frightening event ever? I'd say the congressmen shooting was 10x scarier yet received 100x less news coverage. Just to be clear, sarcasm and unduly extreme language do not work as well on an engineer :)
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  Agreed. It's silly how much pearl-clutching we've had for 4 years. All of things Trump has been "guilty" were pioneered by Democrats, whether it be election fraud allegations by Hillary, conspiracy theories re: Russiagate for years, Scalise shooting by a Bernie supporter or violent protests a la BLM.
- arroz 6y ago
  I find Jan 6th scarier just because of the number of people We don’t know if it is going to happen again, if the mobs are going to be larger, etc We don’t even know what kind of backlash Republicans that voted for impeachment will receive People are afraid The shooter was caught and that was it (though it could happen again, but with anyone really)
jlehman 6y ago
> He didn't understand how someone could have such disregard for the value of human life and democracy... Maybe he hasn't heard about Tiananmen Square[1], since in China it never happened[2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Censorship_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests...
- teekert 6y ago
  It may well be that he didn't. I have had Chinese colleagues that thought the Dalai Lama was some kind of devil. I think it is difficult to imagine real life within Chinese borders.
  - Bakary 6y ago
    >I think it is difficult to imagine real life within Chinese borders. This is classic orientalism, especially the idea that people can't figure their way out of a plastic bag without Western input. In reality, the Chinese population holds a range of opinions just as diverse as in any other country. And why wouldn't it? It just takes time and effort to cross the language barrier and come into contact with it from the West.
    - hker 6y ago
      It is more than “language barrier” or “diverse opinions” in China: the government actively censors information and sways public opinion [1]. Regardless of your political stance (whether you think Dalai Lama is good or evil, Tiananmen Square is good or bad), the public at large in China receives different information and opinions from outside. This is not orientalism. Concepts that could be discussed freely in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, or India, could not be discussed with ease in China. This is hinted at above, that many in China are unaware of the Tiananmen Square incident. [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/07/wechat-censorship-china-us-ban/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/07/wechat-...
krona 6y ago
Hysterical commentary is contributing to the radicalisation on both sides.
- makomk 6y ago
  Not just hysterical, but unbelievably, cynically partisan. Three and a half years ago, someone radicalised by Facebook shot a group of members of Congress after asking them about their party affiliation. One of them, Steve Scalise, was hospitalized for a couple of months fighting for his life, and my understanding is that if some of the bullets had been just a couple of inches across he'd be dead right now for sure. The response of the New York Times and the mainstream press was to lie - to falsely claim that actually, it had nothing to do with political polarization and his party was the one that had incited the shooting of a member of Congress, Gabby Giffords, as he lay in hospital with potentially fatal injuries. (This was literally the exact diametric opposite of the truth - Giffords was shot by someone who had a weird grudge against her personally which had nothing to do with national politics.) There certainly wasn't any kind of concern about the radicalization behind it. In the eyes of the New York Times and the mainstream elite whose views it represents, it's like someone on the wrong side going to a protest and turning around when the property destruction starts is more violent, more dangerous, more in need of suppression by Facebook than someone on the correct side actually filling one of the other side's Congressman full of lead.
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    To my way of thinking, building a gallows outside the Capitol, with apparent intent to use it on the Vice President, is in at least the same category as filling a Congressman full of lead.
Dma54rhs 6y ago
Is this satire? Political violence is so common in America (and violence in general) that I doubt anyone blinks an eye.
eplanit 6y ago
Was this written by a CCP- sponsored bot?
newbie578 6y ago
I have to believe this was written sarcastically, otherwise I cannot believe someone can be this obtuse, especially introducing China to the conversation...

douglaswlance 6y ago

Were you paid to post this?

gvhst 6y ago

> disregard for the value of human life While the deaths were sad, I don't think that's the main reason people are concerned.

hoka-one-one 6y ago
Edited to include democracy, thank you for correcting me.

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docdeek 6y ago

>> The storming of the capitol was probably the most frightening single event in American history in recent times. This is surely hyperbole or else recent times doesn’t include much of the 21st century.

gadders 6y ago
Or even much of the past year in Portland, or even the violent BLM riots in Washington DC.

ppf 6y ago

I suspect living through the collapse of Libya as an innocent resident of that country, was probably one of the most frightening events in recent American history.

snikeris 6y ago
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/19/barack-obama-libya-airstrikes-1224550 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/19/barack-obama-libya...

zests 6y ago

Explain it to an engineer. A few people in a mostly peaceful protest got out of hand and this is the most frightening event ever? I'd say the congressmen shooting was 10x scarier yet received 100x less news coverage. Just to be clear, sarcasm and unduly extreme language do not work as well on an engineer :)

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
Agreed. It's silly how much pearl-clutching we've had for 4 years. All of things Trump has been "guilty" were pioneered by Democrats, whether it be election fraud allegations by Hillary, conspiracy theories re: Russiagate for years, Scalise shooting by a Bernie supporter or violent protests a la BLM.
arroz 6y ago
I find Jan 6th scarier just because of the number of people We don’t know if it is going to happen again, if the mobs are going to be larger, etc We don’t even know what kind of backlash Republicans that voted for impeachment will receive People are afraid The shooter was caught and that was it (though it could happen again, but with anyone really)

jlehman 6y ago

> He didn't understand how someone could have such disregard for the value of human life and democracy... Maybe he hasn't heard about Tiananmen Square[1], since in China it never happened[2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Censorship_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests...

teekert 6y ago
It may well be that he didn't. I have had Chinese colleagues that thought the Dalai Lama was some kind of devil. I think it is difficult to imagine real life within Chinese borders.
- Bakary 6y ago
  >I think it is difficult to imagine real life within Chinese borders. This is classic orientalism, especially the idea that people can't figure their way out of a plastic bag without Western input. In reality, the Chinese population holds a range of opinions just as diverse as in any other country. And why wouldn't it? It just takes time and effort to cross the language barrier and come into contact with it from the West.
  - hker 6y ago
    It is more than “language barrier” or “diverse opinions” in China: the government actively censors information and sways public opinion [1]. Regardless of your political stance (whether you think Dalai Lama is good or evil, Tiananmen Square is good or bad), the public at large in China receives different information and opinions from outside. This is not orientalism. Concepts that could be discussed freely in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, or India, could not be discussed with ease in China. This is hinted at above, that many in China are unaware of the Tiananmen Square incident. [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/07/wechat-censorship-china-us-ban/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/07/wechat-...

krona 6y ago

Hysterical commentary is contributing to the radicalisation on both sides.

makomk 6y ago
Not just hysterical, but unbelievably, cynically partisan. Three and a half years ago, someone radicalised by Facebook shot a group of members of Congress after asking them about their party affiliation. One of them, Steve Scalise, was hospitalized for a couple of months fighting for his life, and my understanding is that if some of the bullets had been just a couple of inches across he'd be dead right now for sure. The response of the New York Times and the mainstream press was to lie - to falsely claim that actually, it had nothing to do with political polarization and his party was the one that had incited the shooting of a member of Congress, Gabby Giffords, as he lay in hospital with potentially fatal injuries. (This was literally the exact diametric opposite of the truth - Giffords was shot by someone who had a weird grudge against her personally which had nothing to do with national politics.) There certainly wasn't any kind of concern about the radicalization behind it. In the eyes of the New York Times and the mainstream elite whose views it represents, it's like someone on the wrong side going to a protest and turning around when the property destruction starts is more violent, more dangerous, more in need of suppression by Facebook than someone on the correct side actually filling one of the other side's Congressman full of lead.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  To my way of thinking, building a gallows outside the Capitol, with apparent intent to use it on the Vice President, is in at least the same category as filling a Congressman full of lead.

Dma54rhs 6y ago

Is this satire? Political violence is so common in America (and violence in general) that I doubt anyone blinks an eye.

eplanit 6y ago

Was this written by a CCP- sponsored bot?

newbie578 6y ago

I have to believe this was written sarcastically, otherwise I cannot believe someone can be this obtuse, especially introducing China to the conversation...