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Why are you bringing up lifestyle? The discussion is insurance. And my point is that, beyond the elderly, most citizens don't qualify for any of America's publ

Why are you bringing up lifestyle? The discussion is insurance. And my point is that, beyond the elderly, most citizens don't qualify for any of America's public insurance plans (I certainly don't): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_in_the_United_States#Public_health_care_coverage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_in_the_United_...

Mz 15y ago
Why are you bringing up lifestyle? The discussion is insurance. Insurance does nothing to really insure your health. It is intended to help protect your wallet. A better way to protect your health is to take care of yourself so you are healthy. The discussion in the US about "the healthcare crisis" always focuses on the financial piece of it. There are differences between Europe and the US that impact health having nothing to do with who pays the medical bills: Europe is generally more pedestrian-friendly, there is a different food culture and so on. All of those things impact health. I get tired of seeing "health insurance" held up as a) the only meaningful difference in health costs between the US and Europe and b) the only important part of "how to control medical costs" in the US debate on health care. That's why I bring it up: Because to me the two things are related.
- dhume 15y ago
  Insurance does nothing to really insure your health. You are confusing "insure" and "ensure."
  - Mz 15y ago
    Thanks. Too late for me to edit though.
- foxit 15y ago
  And if you get hit by a car? And if you get cancer, despite your healthy lifestyle, which happens to millions?
  - Mz 15y ago
    Freak accidents like just getting hit by a car while minding your own business are uncommon. Most accidents that happen are basically "accidents waiting to happen". If you are hit by a car and seriously injured (as in quadraplegic), your medical insurance in the US will still fall far short of covering the costs. With or without insurance, you are far better off doing everything in your power to avoid ending up in such a situation: Don't drink and drive, don't get in the car with an unsafe driver, and so on. If you are concerned about getting cancer, you can get a very affordable cancer policy for a lot less money than major medical coverage costs. As with the above situation, the expenses involved if you get cancer are likely to far exceed what insurance covers. And cancer is influenced by lifestyle. Most Americans aren't terribly healthy. For example, obesity is rampant in the US. So I would be interested in a citation for your assertion that "millions" of people with "healthy lifestyles" get cancer. Thanks.

Mz 15y ago

Why are you bringing up lifestyle? The discussion is insurance. Insurance does nothing to really insure your health. It is intended to help protect your wallet. A better way to protect your health is to take care of yourself so you are healthy. The discussion in the US about "the healthcare crisis" always focuses on the financial piece of it. There are differences between Europe and the US that impact health having nothing to do with who pays the medical bills: Europe is generally more pedestrian-friendly, there is a different food culture and so on. All of those things impact health. I get tired of seeing "health insurance" held up as a) the only meaningful difference in health costs between the US and Europe and b) the only important part of "how to control medical costs" in the US debate on health care. That's why I bring it up: Because to me the two things are related.

dhume 15y ago
Insurance does nothing to really insure your health. You are confusing "insure" and "ensure."
- Mz 15y ago
  Thanks. Too late for me to edit though.
foxit 15y ago
And if you get hit by a car? And if you get cancer, despite your healthy lifestyle, which happens to millions?
- Mz 15y ago
  Freak accidents like just getting hit by a car while minding your own business are uncommon. Most accidents that happen are basically "accidents waiting to happen". If you are hit by a car and seriously injured (as in quadraplegic), your medical insurance in the US will still fall far short of covering the costs. With or without insurance, you are far better off doing everything in your power to avoid ending up in such a situation: Don't drink and drive, don't get in the car with an unsafe driver, and so on. If you are concerned about getting cancer, you can get a very affordable cancer policy for a lot less money than major medical coverage costs. As with the above situation, the expenses involved if you get cancer are likely to far exceed what insurance covers. And cancer is influenced by lifestyle. Most Americans aren't terribly healthy. For example, obesity is rampant in the US. So I would be interested in a citation for your assertion that "millions" of people with "healthy lifestyles" get cancer. Thanks.