Points noted but here is were I must diverge, > This isn't something all of those victims have chosen, so I'd say it isn't victimless. In a manner of speaking

Points noted but here is were I must diverge, > This isn't something all of those victims have chosen, so I'd say it isn't victimless. In a manner of speaking, this rings hollow to my ears - a sort of platitude. I would make a counter example with depression drugs. A former colleague, lives in NY amd has his wife and daughter on anti-depressants. Upon inquiry on why they were drugged up, his response was both spine chilling and grotesque. "They've been feeling a bit down lately. " A medical professional saw fit to prescribe an otherwise healthy 12yr old and a healthy 34yr old anti-depressants because those drugs are legal. That was eye opening. The medical establishment is using their trust to peddle these drugs Have you met someone taking anti-depressants then they stop? I havent. Small sample size but I still havent.