You make a great point and one thing I posted a bit further down was when I was a director level I did a really poor job of leading by example when it came to v

You make a great point and one thing I posted a bit further down was when I was a director level I did a really poor job of leading by example when it came to vacation. I would literally force people to use their pto and I didn't and they would feel weird or bad. I should have been more like your VP.