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Someone put together an animated heatmap of Parler photo locations along the Mall throughout the day of 1/6: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/k

Someone put together an animated heatmap of Parler photo locations along the Mall throughout the day of 1/6: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kvx88n/oc_animated_heatmap_of_parler_video_gps_metadata/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kvx88n/oc_...

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stouset 6y ago
What I find astonishing is that—at least according to that heat map—it appears that bordering on 100% of the people using Parler in DC that day we’re part of the riot / coup / insurrection. This isn’t an app that’s in widespread general use but just so happens to also have a few bad apples using it too. It’s instead almost exclusively used by what would appear to be the most radical wing of the Trump party. Almost every single person using it during that period attended Trump’s speech and/or participated (in some way, shape, or form) in an assault on the Capitol that day.
- cozzyd 6y ago
  I mean, look how DC voted in the last election.
  - eyelidlessness 6y ago
    The same way it has since I’ve been alive. What’s your point?
    - cozzyd 6y ago
      that a DC citizen is exceedingly unlikely to be a Parler user unless they're an external protestor or a congressperson (or congressional staff, I guess).
- gabereiser 6y ago
  This was exactly my take away from the heat map. If that's all the GPS coords from video taken on Parler that day than it looks to be exclusively used by those supporting/participating/sharing the riot on the US Capital.
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  > at least according to that heat map—it appears that bordering on 100% of the people using Parler in DC that day we’re part of the riot / coup / insurrection. Are you sure it's not just a heat map of only those videos?
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    DC voted 93-5% for Biden. Not gonna be many native Parler users there.
- Fnoord 6y ago
  OPSEC 101: blend in, don't look suspicious. By banning these communities from the regular media (Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, ...), they need to gather via "anything goes" path where 'freedom of speech' protects their hate speech, such as bulletproof hosting. Which is expensive, and of which all traffic to/from is suspicious by default. Its essentially akin to Bitcoin mixing, or avoiding Monero.
- GuB-42 6y ago
  > What I find astonishing is that—at least according to that heat map—it appears that bordering on 100% of the people using Parler in DC that day we’re part of the riot / coup / insurrection. These are location from pictures. Of course almost all pictures are of the riots instead of some boring random street in Washington DC. Even people who are not part of it will take pictures simply because it is a major event and nowadays, every time something interesting happens, there are people to take pictures. You are probably going to find similar heat maps on more mainstream social networks.
- collinmanderson 6y ago
  Some people stayed just outside of the capital and didn't necessarily do anything wrong.
henrikschroder 6y ago
Even better, here are the videos along with their locations: https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/index.html https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/index.html
- iso1631 6y ago
  That's hilarious. Some trumpian complaining about furniture in offices while people are homeless on the streets https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/pQf5uxtLtxH5.mp4 https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/pQf5uxtLtxH5.mp4 Neglating to remember his president has been in charge for 4 years The guy coughing at 1m34 too! Rioter 1: "They just hit that dude" Rioter 2: "Yeah because he was being a prick" https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/4wIDySD7tKxo.mp4 https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/4wIDySD7tKxo.mp4 18 seconds Woman takes of mask to tell camera "It's amazing". Cameraman says "put your mask on I don't want anyone to see you"
  - Threeve303 6y ago
    35% of the country looks at the videos and says "yeah, must be antifa"
  - austhrow743 6y ago
    Oh man that last one is right up there with the don’t tread on me lady getting treaded on in hilarity.
feralimal 6y ago
That graphic is interesting to me, as it illustrates what the view is like at the 3-letter-agencies control centers, who have been slurping up our data for years.
- blaser-waffle 6y ago
  Debatable; this is low hanging fruit. Turn off or strip EXIF data -- most sites do anyway -- and this wouldn't happen.
raverbashing 6y ago
Looks like this aged poorly https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293
- BrandonMarc 6y ago
  Indeed. Greenwald helped Snowden; he has the chops to see what's going on. To wit, his subsequent tweet: Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald Jan 11 Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silencing competitors on ideological grounds: just the start.
  - zimpenfish 6y ago
    That tweet seems to be incorrect. https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1349277932531847174 https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1349277932531847174 > Hi Glenn, I'm wondering if you would be willing to delete this tweet and issue a correction both on Twitter and your newsletter since a number of the people arrested last week, including Jacob Chansley and Nicholas Ochs, were active users of Parler. Thanks!
  - watwut 6y ago
    Afaik, Greenwald was told the above by Parler CEO. Greenwald then proceeded to uncritically believe that.
- deleted 6y ago
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- xupybd 6y ago
  Wow this is a powerful way to word it. "Authoritarians never believe they're authoritarians, no matter how much censorship, surveillance, jingoism, & imprisonment they demand. They tell themselves their enemies are so uniquely evil and dangerous - terrorists - that anything done in the name of fighting them is noble."
no-s 6y ago
>>Someone put together an animated heatmap of Parler photo locations along the Mall throughout the day of 1/6 Showing that people posted videos from the rally at the Monument and then went to the front of the Capitol buildings. Note that many on site participants reported there was no cell or data service at the Capital, so they were not coordinating with Parler, just reporting. The heat map might generate hypothesis but conclusions that Parler users or demonstrators as a whole did anything other than asserting rights under the 1st amendment do not necessarily follow from the data[1]. [1]https://gist.github.com/kylemcdonald/8fdabd6526924012c1f5afe538d7dc09 https://gist.github.com/kylemcdonald/8fdabd6526924012c1f5afe...

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stouset 6y ago

What I find astonishing is that—at least according to that heat map—it appears that bordering on 100% of the people using Parler in DC that day we’re part of the riot / coup / insurrection. This isn’t an app that’s in widespread general use but just so happens to also have a few bad apples using it too. It’s instead almost exclusively used by what would appear to be the most radical wing of the Trump party. Almost every single person using it during that period attended Trump’s speech and/or participated (in some way, shape, or form) in an assault on the Capitol that day.

cozzyd 6y ago
I mean, look how DC voted in the last election.
- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  The same way it has since I’ve been alive. What’s your point?
  - cozzyd 6y ago
    that a DC citizen is exceedingly unlikely to be a Parler user unless they're an external protestor or a congressperson (or congressional staff, I guess).
gabereiser 6y ago
This was exactly my take away from the heat map. If that's all the GPS coords from video taken on Parler that day than it looks to be exclusively used by those supporting/participating/sharing the riot on the US Capital.
AnthonyMouse 6y ago
> at least according to that heat map—it appears that bordering on 100% of the people using Parler in DC that day we’re part of the riot / coup / insurrection. Are you sure it's not just a heat map of only those videos?
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  DC voted 93-5% for Biden. Not gonna be many native Parler users there.
Fnoord 6y ago
OPSEC 101: blend in, don't look suspicious. By banning these communities from the regular media (Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, ...), they need to gather via "anything goes" path where 'freedom of speech' protects their hate speech, such as bulletproof hosting. Which is expensive, and of which all traffic to/from is suspicious by default. Its essentially akin to Bitcoin mixing, or avoiding Monero.
GuB-42 6y ago
> What I find astonishing is that—at least according to that heat map—it appears that bordering on 100% of the people using Parler in DC that day we’re part of the riot / coup / insurrection. These are location from pictures. Of course almost all pictures are of the riots instead of some boring random street in Washington DC. Even people who are not part of it will take pictures simply because it is a major event and nowadays, every time something interesting happens, there are people to take pictures. You are probably going to find similar heat maps on more mainstream social networks.
collinmanderson 6y ago
Some people stayed just outside of the capital and didn't necessarily do anything wrong.

henrikschroder 6y ago

Even better, here are the videos along with their locations: https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/index.html https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/index.html

iso1631 6y ago
That's hilarious. Some trumpian complaining about furniture in offices while people are homeless on the streets https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/pQf5uxtLtxH5.mp4 https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/pQf5uxtLtxH5.mp4 Neglating to remember his president has been in charge for 4 years The guy coughing at 1m34 too! Rioter 1: "They just hit that dude" Rioter 2: "Yeah because he was being a prick" https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/4wIDySD7tKxo.mp4 https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/4wIDySD7tKxo.mp4 18 seconds Woman takes of mask to tell camera "It's amazing". Cameraman says "put your mask on I don't want anyone to see you"
- Threeve303 6y ago
  35% of the country looks at the videos and says "yeah, must be antifa"
- austhrow743 6y ago
  Oh man that last one is right up there with the don’t tread on me lady getting treaded on in hilarity.

feralimal 6y ago

That graphic is interesting to me, as it illustrates what the view is like at the 3-letter-agencies control centers, who have been slurping up our data for years.

blaser-waffle 6y ago
Debatable; this is low hanging fruit. Turn off or strip EXIF data -- most sites do anyway -- and this wouldn't happen.

raverbashing 6y ago

Looks like this aged poorly https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293

BrandonMarc 6y ago
Indeed. Greenwald helped Snowden; he has the chops to see what's going on. To wit, his subsequent tweet: Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald Jan 11 Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silencing competitors on ideological grounds: just the start.
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  That tweet seems to be incorrect. https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1349277932531847174 https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1349277932531847174 > Hi Glenn, I'm wondering if you would be willing to delete this tweet and issue a correction both on Twitter and your newsletter since a number of the people arrested last week, including Jacob Chansley and Nicholas Ochs, were active users of Parler. Thanks!
- watwut 6y ago
  Afaik, Greenwald was told the above by Parler CEO. Greenwald then proceeded to uncritically believe that.
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xupybd 6y ago
Wow this is a powerful way to word it. "Authoritarians never believe they're authoritarians, no matter how much censorship, surveillance, jingoism, & imprisonment they demand. They tell themselves their enemies are so uniquely evil and dangerous - terrorists - that anything done in the name of fighting them is noble."

no-s 6y ago

>>Someone put together an animated heatmap of Parler photo locations along the Mall throughout the day of 1/6 Showing that people posted videos from the rally at the Monument and then went to the front of the Capitol buildings. Note that many on site participants reported there was no cell or data service at the Capital, so they were not coordinating with Parler, just reporting. The heat map might generate hypothesis but conclusions that Parler users or demonstrators as a whole did anything other than asserting rights under the 1st amendment do not necessarily follow from the data[1]. [1]https://gist.github.com/kylemcdonald/8fdabd6526924012c1f5afe538d7dc09 https://gist.github.com/kylemcdonald/8fdabd6526924012c1f5afe...