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This entire comment thread can be asterisked with “for now”. GoDaddy kicked off AR15.com with no reason at all, they were fine with the content... until the mo

This entire comment thread can be asterisked with “for now”. GoDaddy kicked off AR15.com with no reason at all, they were fine with the content... until the moment they weren’t. The problem has always been a TOS that is selectively and interpretively enforced. It’s just popular this week. > I don't want to have to think about the political beliefs of a CEO before deciding to use a service. ffs no joke! I was embarrassed for what Expensify did, and if my company used that service we would have dropped them in a hot second. IDK why “we’ll stfu and do our job” isn’t the default anymore.

js2 6y ago
> GoDaddy kicked off AR15.com with no reason at all No, not no reason at all: "In response to content complaints on the ar15.com website, our team investigated and discovered content on the site that both promotes and encourages violence. As a result, we informed the site yesterday that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another registrar, as they have violated our terms of service," GoDaddy told the Washington Examiner. FWIW, ar15.com is hosted on AWS. GoDaddy was just the domain registrar. I gather ar15.com was temporarily removed from the GTLD name servers because they didn't move to a new registrar quickly enough.
jeromegv 6y ago
Shut the fuck up and do our job hasn't really worked well once the capitol was attacked, those people were organizing in public in many social media platforms (not just Parler!) and people working at those social media companies shut the fuck up and did their job. And then that happened. Are you saying that staying silent is the answer once you have people organizing to take down the government? How will your business operate once the government is down? There has to have some limits somewhere. Yes we don't want everything to be political but obviously, there is a line somewhere, wouldn't you agree?
- IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
  Belgium was without a government for years. No one really cared I think its possible to think of a world where dc simply goes on vacation and the rest of the country is just fine.
  - ajdlinux 6y ago
    Someone doesn't understand how parliamentary systems and caretaker governments work...
  - deleted 6y ago
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- throw3848 6y ago
  I get your point, but technically Trump ia current goverment ;)
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  > Are you saying that staying silent is the answer once you have people organizing to take down the government? How will your business operate once the government is down? Let's dispatch with the second one first. Even if you bulldozed the entire city of DC and everyone who works there was permanently relocated to the North Pole by Santa Claus to make toys for little children forever, there would still be a government because there is a constitutional process for electing or hiring some other people to do it. So what should platforms do about this? That's too narrow a question. It's what should society do about this? Step one, arrest the people breaking the law. Violence and calls for violence are illegal. At which point it's not clear that we even need a step two, because then the relevant people are in jail.
  - armada651 6y ago
    > At which point it's not clear that we even need a step two, because then the relevant people are in jail. I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life. They will be released from jail at some point and start spreading their ideology again. I hate to pull a godwin, but "let's throw the insurrectionists in jail and that's the end of that" hasn't worked out well historically. Let's just hope none of them writes a book while doing their time.
    - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
      > I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life. I think murdering a police officer is a capital offense. You don't get back out of jail after that one. But even for the people committing less violence than that, and who in turn eventually get released, they only stay released if they stay non-violent. Otherwise they're right back to jail. > I hate to pull a godwin, but "let's throw the insurrectionists in jail and that's the end of that" hasn't worked out well historically. Let's just hope none of them writes a book while doing their time. So now we're abandoning even the premise of free speech? If people are engaged in violence you put them in jail. If people are non-violently saying dumb things and you don't agree with them, you say your thing too.
CryptoGhost 6y ago
> This entire comment thread can be asterisked with “for now”. Which is true but its also important to not jump the gun so people can give coherent arguments for/against currents events. Take Amazon for example, there is significant internal pressure to run the company based on a specific set of (for lack of a better word) progressive values but at the same time there is also a big part of the company that is customer focused and puts themselves in their shoes to try and deliver results and the politics of the day is just noise to them. Who will win in a few years time ? Can't say and the future is still unwritten.

js2 6y ago

> GoDaddy kicked off AR15.com with no reason at all No, not no reason at all: "In response to content complaints on the ar15.com website, our team investigated and discovered content on the site that both promotes and encourages violence. As a result, we informed the site yesterday that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another registrar, as they have violated our terms of service," GoDaddy told the Washington Examiner. FWIW, ar15.com is hosted on AWS. GoDaddy was just the domain registrar. I gather ar15.com was temporarily removed from the GTLD name servers because they didn't move to a new registrar quickly enough.

jeromegv 6y ago

Shut the fuck up and do our job hasn't really worked well once the capitol was attacked, those people were organizing in public in many social media platforms (not just Parler!) and people working at those social media companies shut the fuck up and did their job. And then that happened. Are you saying that staying silent is the answer once you have people organizing to take down the government? How will your business operate once the government is down? There has to have some limits somewhere. Yes we don't want everything to be political but obviously, there is a line somewhere, wouldn't you agree?

IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
Belgium was without a government for years. No one really cared I think its possible to think of a world where dc simply goes on vacation and the rest of the country is just fine.
- ajdlinux 6y ago
  Someone doesn't understand how parliamentary systems and caretaker governments work...
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
throw3848 6y ago
I get your point, but technically Trump ia current goverment ;)
AnthonyMouse 6y ago
> Are you saying that staying silent is the answer once you have people organizing to take down the government? How will your business operate once the government is down? Let's dispatch with the second one first. Even if you bulldozed the entire city of DC and everyone who works there was permanently relocated to the North Pole by Santa Claus to make toys for little children forever, there would still be a government because there is a constitutional process for electing or hiring some other people to do it. So what should platforms do about this? That's too narrow a question. It's what should society do about this? Step one, arrest the people breaking the law. Violence and calls for violence are illegal. At which point it's not clear that we even need a step two, because then the relevant people are in jail.
- armada651 6y ago
  > At which point it's not clear that we even need a step two, because then the relevant people are in jail. I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life. They will be released from jail at some point and start spreading their ideology again. I hate to pull a godwin, but "let's throw the insurrectionists in jail and that's the end of that" hasn't worked out well historically. Let's just hope none of them writes a book while doing their time.
  - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
    > I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life. I think murdering a police officer is a capital offense. You don't get back out of jail after that one. But even for the people committing less violence than that, and who in turn eventually get released, they only stay released if they stay non-violent. Otherwise they're right back to jail. > I hate to pull a godwin, but "let's throw the insurrectionists in jail and that's the end of that" hasn't worked out well historically. Let's just hope none of them writes a book while doing their time. So now we're abandoning even the premise of free speech? If people are engaged in violence you put them in jail. If people are non-violently saying dumb things and you don't agree with them, you say your thing too.

CryptoGhost 6y ago

> This entire comment thread can be asterisked with “for now”. Which is true but its also important to not jump the gun so people can give coherent arguments for/against currents events. Take Amazon for example, there is significant internal pressure to run the company based on a specific set of (for lack of a better word) progressive values but at the same time there is also a big part of the company that is customer focused and puts themselves in their shoes to try and deliver results and the politics of the day is just noise to them. Who will win in a few years time ? Can't say and the future is still unwritten.