> Part of TSMC's offer is that they won't do design That's kind of a hoax. GUC (Global Uni Chip) is huge, and a nearly-wholly-owned subsidiary of TSMC. https

> Part of TSMC's offer is that they won't do design That's kind of a hoax. GUC (Global Uni Chip) is huge, and a nearly-wholly-owned subsidiary of TSMC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Unichip_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Unichip_Corporation TSMC has a large design operation. It simply is part of a subsidiary rather than the parent company, that's all. There are a lot of shady links between TSMC and GUC. I was once pressured to "collaborate" with GUC as an explicit condition of getting access to the then-bleeding-edge 16nm PDK. I turned it down. A competitor of mine (with whose chief engineer I am friends) had the same screws put to them.