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> If hypothetically every engineer at Apple hired in 2017 got $100k/yr https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Apple&track=Software%20Engineer https://www.levels.fyi/?

> If hypothetically every engineer at Apple hired in 2017 got $100k/yr https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Apple&track=Software%20Engineer https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Apple&track=Software%20Engin... ICT2: $165k ICT3: $214k ICT4: $315k ICT5: $440k ICT6: $681k Point: $100k/yr total comp is pretty low for Apple's standards.

6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
Yup, and that was on purpose. If salaries were low (like in OP's area), then you'd see this rapid upward pressure, presumably contributing to a change towards the higher salaries you mention. The more relevant bit is probably whether I was way off on the percent split between cash and RSUs.
ff232fffffrt 6y ago
I am a software developer for 15 years and I don't know a single developer who make more than 100K$ a year in Germany (I only talk about regular employment and not about freelancers, because freelancers can work overtime and get bills from other countries including USA).
- euengtaway50 6y ago
  Where are you based and who are you talking to? 100k USD is just 82k€, which is easily achievable even in places like Zalando.
- distances 6y ago
  Just a minor FYI: you absolutely don't need to work overtime to get over 100k€ from German customers as a freelancer.
HenryKissinger 6y ago
Apple has only 16,000 engineers. Landing a software engineering internship at Apple is extremely difficult. Landing a full time job as a software engineer at Apple is even more difficult. The people we're talking about are a small caste of privileged individuals. Their salaries do not reflect the norm of othet software engineers in the US.
- gamechangr 6y ago
  His example has nothing to do with Apple really. He means every publicly traded tech company with stock and how the collective market (though stock options) increases the money a SWE would make verses saying paying market value for a dentist that might be compensated well but has no competitive stock options to overcome. Great point

6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago

Yup, and that was on purpose. If salaries were low (like in OP's area), then you'd see this rapid upward pressure, presumably contributing to a change towards the higher salaries you mention. The more relevant bit is probably whether I was way off on the percent split between cash and RSUs.

ff232fffffrt 6y ago

I am a software developer for 15 years and I don't know a single developer who make more than 100K$ a year in Germany (I only talk about regular employment and not about freelancers, because freelancers can work overtime and get bills from other countries including USA).

euengtaway50 6y ago
Where are you based and who are you talking to? 100k USD is just 82k€, which is easily achievable even in places like Zalando.
distances 6y ago
Just a minor FYI: you absolutely don't need to work overtime to get over 100k€ from German customers as a freelancer.

HenryKissinger 6y ago

Apple has only 16,000 engineers. Landing a software engineering internship at Apple is extremely difficult. Landing a full time job as a software engineer at Apple is even more difficult. The people we're talking about are a small caste of privileged individuals. Their salaries do not reflect the norm of othet software engineers in the US.

gamechangr 6y ago
His example has nothing to do with Apple really. He means every publicly traded tech company with stock and how the collective market (though stock options) increases the money a SWE would make verses saying paying market value for a dentist that might be compensated well but has no competitive stock options to overcome. Great point