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We didn't collude with Twitter to drop Parler, says AWS in court filing

33 points by samizdis 6y ago

Helloworldboy 6y ago
Of course, it was all just a coincidence
- pixl97 6y ago
  Turns out trying to overthrow the government is quite the coincidence
- EdwardDiego 6y ago
  It's almost like there was a unmissable event that occurred that both companies responded to.
  - buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
    That’s a very charitable interpretation. Too charitable if you asked me. Much more likely that everyone saw Facebook ban Trump then piled on after them, no longer afraid of the blow back. Still not collusion though.
    - ineedasername 6y ago
      Except I don't think they all would have piled on if not for that unmissable event
      - buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
        Fair. Both things happening were likely necessary.
- deleted 6y ago
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- dragonwriter 6y ago
  The world is not divided into collusion and coincidence. If I’m standing near someone and a bomb goes off on one side of us and we both run away in the same direction, there is no coordination, collusion, or common endeavor needed to motivate that similar action. It’s also not at all “coincidence”.
eznzt 6y ago
I don't think they colluded. It's much more likely that when they see a platform they don't like they wait until someone casts the first stone.
LatteLazy 6y ago
Trumpists seem to have a real victim mentality: there is always a conspiracy against them, they're always a minority even when they are a majority, they're the underdog even with the President and Senate and Scotus. AWS can't possibly just not want to do business with Parler. They can't just be worried about their own brand. They can't just be covering their legal arses. No, there must be a conspiracy with twitter (one of the most wild-west places left), despite having no real business connection between the two!?
- whateveracct 6y ago
  "all-powerful and ever-the-victim" is an authoritarian tale as old as time
  - ineedasername 6y ago
    Authoritarians frequently rise to & remain in power by claiming "they are out to get us and only we can stop them!"
- mhh__ 6y ago
  I think conspiracies are just empirically better at engaging the base.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  > there is always a conspiracy against them Given that they are referred to as Fascists/Nazis, along with the notion that punching Nazis is ok; Seems to me there is a conspiracy, a pretty open/explicit one.
  - smokelegend 6y ago
    Seems weird, a country that fought nazi's & fascist during WW2 would have a problem today with nazi's & fascist in their own country. Do nazi's deserve to be punched in the face? In the US, yes All Nazi's should be punched in the face. We fought a war over this already, it's not open for debate. It's not a conspiracy, nazi's are bad. FULL STOP!
RL_Quine 6y ago
I particularly like the accusation that it is discrimination that they didn't ban Twitter from AWS, despite Twitter not using AWS. Very confused.
- deleted 6y ago
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- js2 6y ago
  Twitter signed an agreement with Amazon last year, but I can't imagine they have much if anything hosted there yet. The filing also misspells Parler as Parley in at least one place. I noticed a few other typos. So it was written in a hurry and didn't get much review. https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/22/twitter-and-amazon-team-up-on-cloud-infrastructure/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/22/twitter-and-amazon...
- michaelmior 6y ago
  Twitter recently signed a big deal with AWS. https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/15/twitter-taps-aws-for-its-latest-foray-into-the-public-cloud/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/15/twitter-taps-aws-for-its-l...
  - RL_Quine 6y ago
    "Parler's Complaint is replete with insinuations that AWS had equal grounds to suspend Twitter's account and thus discriminated against Parler… but AWS does not host Twitter's feed, so of course it could not have suspended access to Twitter's content." This would be a strange thing to file in a court document if that were the case.
    - hnburnsy 6y ago
      It is wordingsmithing, AWS does not host Twitter feeds, but they will be hosting Twitter timelines... https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-details/twitter-selects-aws-strategic-provider-serve-timelines https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-det... "Today, Amazon Web Services, Inc. (AWS), an Amazon.com, Inc. company (NASDAQ: AMZN), announced that Twitter (NYSE: TWTR) has selected AWS to provide global cloud infrastructure to deliver Twitter timelines. Under the multi-year deal, Twitter will leverage AWS’s proven infrastructure and portfolio of services to support delivery of millions of daily Tweets."

33 points by samizdis 6y ago

Helloworldboy 6y ago

Of course, it was all just a coincidence

pixl97 6y ago
Turns out trying to overthrow the government is quite the coincidence
EdwardDiego 6y ago
It's almost like there was a unmissable event that occurred that both companies responded to.
- buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
  That’s a very charitable interpretation. Too charitable if you asked me. Much more likely that everyone saw Facebook ban Trump then piled on after them, no longer afraid of the blow back. Still not collusion though.
  - ineedasername 6y ago
    Except I don't think they all would have piled on if not for that unmissable event
    - buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
      Fair. Both things happening were likely necessary.
deleted 6y ago
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dragonwriter 6y ago
The world is not divided into collusion and coincidence. If I’m standing near someone and a bomb goes off on one side of us and we both run away in the same direction, there is no coordination, collusion, or common endeavor needed to motivate that similar action. It’s also not at all “coincidence”.

eznzt 6y ago

I don't think they colluded. It's much more likely that when they see a platform they don't like they wait until someone casts the first stone.

LatteLazy 6y ago

Trumpists seem to have a real victim mentality: there is always a conspiracy against them, they're always a minority even when they are a majority, they're the underdog even with the President and Senate and Scotus. AWS can't possibly just not want to do business with Parler. They can't just be worried about their own brand. They can't just be covering their legal arses. No, there must be a conspiracy with twitter (one of the most wild-west places left), despite having no real business connection between the two!?

whateveracct 6y ago
"all-powerful and ever-the-victim" is an authoritarian tale as old as time
- ineedasername 6y ago
  Authoritarians frequently rise to & remain in power by claiming "they are out to get us and only we can stop them!"
mhh__ 6y ago
I think conspiracies are just empirically better at engaging the base.
Chris2048 6y ago
> there is always a conspiracy against them Given that they are referred to as Fascists/Nazis, along with the notion that punching Nazis is ok; Seems to me there is a conspiracy, a pretty open/explicit one.
- smokelegend 6y ago
  Seems weird, a country that fought nazi's & fascist during WW2 would have a problem today with nazi's & fascist in their own country. Do nazi's deserve to be punched in the face? In the US, yes All Nazi's should be punched in the face. We fought a war over this already, it's not open for debate. It's not a conspiracy, nazi's are bad. FULL STOP!

RL_Quine 6y ago

I particularly like the accusation that it is discrimination that they didn't ban Twitter from AWS, despite Twitter not using AWS. Very confused.

deleted 6y ago
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js2 6y ago
Twitter signed an agreement with Amazon last year, but I can't imagine they have much if anything hosted there yet. The filing also misspells Parler as Parley in at least one place. I noticed a few other typos. So it was written in a hurry and didn't get much review. https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/22/twitter-and-amazon-team-up-on-cloud-infrastructure/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/12/22/twitter-and-amazon...
michaelmior 6y ago
Twitter recently signed a big deal with AWS. https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/15/twitter-taps-aws-for-its-latest-foray-into-the-public-cloud/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/15/twitter-taps-aws-for-its-l...
- RL_Quine 6y ago
  "Parler's Complaint is replete with insinuations that AWS had equal grounds to suspend Twitter's account and thus discriminated against Parler… but AWS does not host Twitter's feed, so of course it could not have suspended access to Twitter's content." This would be a strange thing to file in a court document if that were the case.
  - hnburnsy 6y ago
    It is wordingsmithing, AWS does not host Twitter feeds, but they will be hosting Twitter timelines... https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-details/twitter-selects-aws-strategic-provider-serve-timelines https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-det... "Today, Amazon Web Services, Inc. (AWS), an Amazon.com, Inc. company (NASDAQ: AMZN), announced that Twitter (NYSE: TWTR) has selected AWS to provide global cloud infrastructure to deliver Twitter timelines. Under the multi-year deal, Twitter will leverage AWS’s proven infrastructure and portfolio of services to support delivery of millions of daily Tweets."