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The reporting is that Mitch McConnell is really upset with Trump and never wants to talk to him again, is undecided on conviction, and sees a potential opportun
by Rapzid 6y ago
The reporting is that Mitch McConnell is really upset with Trump and never wants to talk to him again, is undecided on conviction, and sees a potential opportunity to purge Trump from the GOP.
Honestly, I feel like the deciding factor may be whether or not on the day of the vote persons with the most influence over the GOP feel the party is better off convicting and blocking Trump from even pretending to run in 2024.
EDIT: Many in the GOP blame Trump for them losing majority of the House, the Senate, and the White House. He was already a proven losing formula before last weeks events. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they viewed him as a straight up liability for the midterms and in 2024.
- LatteLazy 6y agoI think it will be a bit more clinical but along the same lines: can you convince 17ish gop senators that they're chance of re-election goes up if they impeach and they won't get primaried either. Given his die hard popularity with ~40% of the US population still approving [1], and with the republican base 87% approving [2], it would be brave of Mitch to take his first principled stand... [1] https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/ [2] https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ra...
- filoeleven 6y agoMitch already sent a memo stating that if he was impeached, the trial would not begin until after he is out of office. So he will not begin proceedings. https://www.businessinsider.com/mcconnell-says-impeachment-trial-wont-happen-before-inauguration-2021-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/mcconnell-says-impeachment-t...
- LatteLazy 6y agoBetter politically to avoid any decision...
- aaron695 6y agoI'd be watching what happens to the 10 Republicans who swapped sides here. Both the flak they will get for jumping ship and the flak they will get knowing it will affect the next vote.
- polka_haunts_us 6y agoI think we're going to have to wait for the base to get over him, and for that to happen I think we're going to have to wait for more continued Dem control of everything before the core voters like the idea of beating the Dems more than they like the idea of Trumpism. Might not happen for a while either given how narrow the Dem control of congress is. Going against the base in your area is increasingly just asking to get primaried, on both sides of the aisle.
- LatteLazy 6y agoYeah. Interesting times for Biden and the Dems. There will be a push for radicalism and a push to do as little as possible (to not mobilise the rep base). I wonder which will prevail.
- mc32 6y agoBeside the pandemic, I think the performance in the first debate was disastrous. If he’d faced it like the second debate, he might well not be in this position. Of course I think he was upset by the initial impeachment. And he probably was under the mistaken conclusion that he needed to rattle Biden to win the debate. He was like an unbridled bronco when he needed to be more of a showhorse for the undecideds.
- LatteLazy 6y agoModern elections are interesting because they're so close. I believe they're so close because polling has become nearly a science and the funding on both sides allow a professional process. That means small mistakes or single bad performances decide elections in a way they couldn't even 10 years ago. It's interesting, even for outside observers like me (limey brit)